I cannot imagine that having drones guided by US intelligence blowing up all your refineries and oil depots is good for business.
Most people don't run a prospering cafe if someone throws an incendiary device into the walk-in freezer once or twice a week.
I didn't demonize any protestors.
I didn't apologist for any genocide.
I'm not stanning for anyone in particular. I am giving Biden criticism over his material support for a genocide, while arguing that the meme you posted up there is a bunch of horseshit as applied to this election.
Most of your comment had nothing to do with me; it seems to be just inventing some views for me that are more comfortable to argue against than anything I actually believe, so I didn't respond to them too much.
If you want to say that Biden's bad for supporting a genocide, but that we should still vote for him, that's something I can very much get behind on both counts. But that's nothing to do with the meme or with your other comments.
or don’t vote at all
What a fascinating, totally organic outgrowth of your deep concern for the Palestinian people, and the voice of the protestors. I hear you. It makes perfect sense.
Go to any protest, and you'll hear the chants of "Please! Don't! Vote! ... Please! Don't! Vote!" And then comes the tear gas, from the people who would suppress that vital message.
Talk to any Palestinian, and through the cries of their children, you'll hear them choke over the phone, in a voice half twisted by starvation and misery and lost loved ones, that if they had one wish they could communicate to the people of America, it would be finally for not voting in the American election in November to be a respected point of view.
You are carrying their message. It's only a damn shame that so many misinterpret your motives, and think that somehow, you might have some other reason for spreading it so vigorously.
You talked me into it I guess -- I promise not to vote for Netanyahu in the election in November.
(Not that upvotes are a good metric of who's right about things, but even within that framework...)
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Thank you! That's excellent
And yeah, the whole mindset is very much alien to actual leftist struggle. I get it. It's pretty discouraging if the police come and bear-spray you and arrest you because you're advocating for simple sanity in the system. At the same time, I imagine someone who was involved in struggle for civil rights or someone who's been an undocumented immigrant or something, saying: Yeah. That's what we're up against. If you're all of a sudden gonna get all discouraged about it like WELL IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE NICE THEN I REFUSE TO BE INVOLVED, I DON'T LIKE THIS... like bro what did you think was happening. The wrong people are in charge. That's what's up. Can we get busy on trying to change it? Inside or outside the system or both, or whatever seems like a good way to get rid of the crooks and get some better outcomes?
The whole "I refuse to engage with this broken system until something comes from above and makes the Democrats 'earn it' by being better all on their own, by magic" is a guaranteed win for all the worst outcomes and all the worst people, who will hurt a lot of people who don't have your luxury of deciding whether or not to involve with the system, and will make it exponentially more difficult to replace the Democrats with something better in the future.
I call this one the "Chewbacca Defense" -- they seize on some logical leap that makes absolutely no sense (and for some reason this one often goes with expressing it really angrily, with insults). This one is a little hard to describe, but some examples are "I can't be a shill, I had an account on Reddit" or this comment.
Did he make eye contact with you right after, and say, "Nothing personal, kid"?
I am sure there are plenty of people who support the police beating up protestors. I'm pretty confident that the number of them who talk to their friends about "our boys in blue" when they're not quoting a 1930s newsreel is in the single digits.
Prediction: I will look over your account's history, and within the first few pages I will see:
... and nothing else. You won't be concerned about Boeing, or Ticketmaster, or avian flu or climate change (except insofar as climate change can be directly connected to Biden).
Maybe I am wrong. This is just my prediction, based on you suddenly wanting to shoehorn Gaza into a topic that has nothing to do with it, and having no other thoughts on either Japan or Biden, the things that were previously being discussed that had nothing to do with Gaza.
(And, by the way, I think genocide is bad and Biden is bad for abetting it, if you're wondering.)
Brb, checking
Edit: Looks to me like I was more or less right. Also, "Nothing made me smile more than watching our boys in blue wreck those scumbag commies" is not a phrase that any human being in the history of the world has ever spoken in real life.
This is one thing I actually like about Biden: He sometimes says weird shit out loud that's not actually wrong, but isn't something that people in politics will ever say for obvious reasons.
E.g. the interview where he said we might have to get rid of Erdogan, or the thing of if you support Trump "you ain't black," or this. It is the honest version of "He tells it like it is!" that idiots say about Trump. He really does just open his mouth sometimes and some weird honest shit comes out. It's very unusual for a politician.
Ding ding ding
I actually don't agree that Biden is more of the same bullshit; at least domestically he's done some fuckin massive things, empowered unions, taken big action on climate change for the first time I think anyone in power in the US has taken it seriously. But even if you don't believe that (or regardless of it, if you're angry as hell that he abetted a genocide, which, I get) -- what's the logic on saying "I am so unhappy with politics in the US that I will decide not to get involved with it anymore and just let things take their course no matter how much worse they might get"?
The right answer if you're pissed off about Biden and the DNC, is to try to figure out how to get what you want (which, if you think for 5-10 seconds, you will realize Trump not being in office is absolutely critical to) and work for it. The American government is not going away any time soon (at least, not without getting replaced with something 10 times worse). It will be there, whether you're involved or not. There is absolutely nothing to be gained by taking this bullshit "Well if you will not take me to Disneyworld I will leave the stove on and if the house burns down, oh well" petulant attitude. We tried that approach after 1968, and it kind of felt-like-it-made-sense at the time for more or less the same reasons, and look where it got us. From JFK and the civil rights act, to "welfare to work" and death squads all over Central America and everyone's favorite chart.
Constables are not cops, in general. IDK how exactly it works in Texas and it looks like it's actually more similar than it usually is, but as a general rule in practice, constables are sort of the "civil matter" version of police (who are chiefly for criminal matters) -- they serve evictions and summonses, child support warrants, traffic detail like in this case, that kind of thing.