If the Ukrainians and the West hadn't made us invade with all their provocations, then the firefighting services would have been fully staffed and available to fight the fire. If you lost property or loved ones in the fire, just know, it's on the Ukrainians' heads. How DARE they. And that's why we have to defeat them, which we're already doing, of course.
mozz
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Absolutely yes. And, continues to push some of their narratives regardless of how many times it's demonstrated that they're not accurate (and doesn't seem to have much interest in even having the discussion of whether they're accurate).
I think most of the troll farms have a certain quota of how many stories / comments you're supposed to post per day, which seems to me like a pretty good explanation for the constant flood of slanted-in-one-particular-way stories that come out of OP. But who knows, maybe he's just super passionate about posting political stuff but super uninterested in analyzing political stuff. You know, like most perfectly ordinary organic politics-posting people are.
It is not a statement designed to convince. It is designed as supporting evidence for a certain mental model, yes, but to a degree that's pretty hard to appreciate unless you've spent some time with this mindset, they are not operating in a world where one person says an argument, and the other person evaluates it critically and decides whether to accept or reject it.
Their model is that if a person in authority says an argument, people "under" that person's authority are obligated to accept it. To evaluate for yourself whether the thing the big NYPD sergeant is firmly telling you is terrorist propaganda, is actually terrorist propaganda or not, is already a subversive act that may be punished by harsh criticism and humiliation at least, and possibly a total expulsion from the social circle or threats to your physical safety.
It's not a good model, but it's the one they operate under, and it works for them as individuals for the most part. So that's what they run with.
Prediction: The poll will not attempt to select for likely voters. It will simply look at all poll respondents.
Prediction: If I look at the actual results of a handful of the most recent downballot elections (special elections and other weird situations where we can actually find out whether the Democrats or the Republicans won), I will find at least a 2-to-1 majority of good news for the Democrats over the other kind
I'm actually in favor of the idea of taking the November election extremely seriously because Biden has some problems and it's not at all assured that Trump won't win and that would be a fuckin catastrophe for many different reasons. But I think misinformation in service of that goal, or attempts to represent support for Trump as "the will of the people," isn't a good thing.
BRB, checking my predictions
Edit: WTF, it's even worse than my prediction. They're constructing an elaborate Frankenstein's monster of narratives out of individual data points from black voters of various age groupings, and their enthusiasm about politics in general, throwing in a quick little word about Gaza in there, without even pretending that they're trying to answer the question "what's the likely result in November, overall?". Sorta reminds me of this comic.
They don't even bother to attempt to say that the "downballot" thing from the headline has any connection to the poll, except in the very last paragraph where they throw in another weird little unproven narrative.
Edit: Okay, so to address the other half of my predictions -- Democrats won 80% of the recent special elections, including a seat in Virginia where the D guy won by 50 percentage points. I could spin up a whole narrative from that, go into all these details about Trump's criminal trials and kneecapping the RNC, and Biden's wins on the economy, and sort of pretend that the picture I'm painting corresponds to a prediction about downballot races in November, and it wouldn't mean a damn thing any more than this article does. It's just argument by anecdote.
(Actually, it arguably would be a lot more valid than this article... but still argument by anecdote. Certainly, there's reason to worry about November. This article isn't it.)
Preach
This is why it's actually a little unsafe to have two people flying an airplane where one is way more senior than the other. Because the guy with only 1,000 hours of experience or whatever will hesitate to say "Hey I think you're bein a moron, we need to do X Y Z instead," and there's not a person on earth who's exempt from being a moron sometimes.
You need multiple perspectives
Fun story: George Lucas's ex-wife had a huge hand in writing a lot of the original blockbuster trilogy.
There were some odd choices in some of the early drafts; Han Solo was at one point a weird fishy creature, there was a malevolent energy called "The Bogan" that served as a counterpart to the force, Ben Kenobi was called "Owen," and the dialogue was straight-up odd.
Luke is attacked by Tusken raiders just before he meets Ben; they leave him handcuffed to a giant spinning wheel. Kenobi approaches with a “good morning!”
“What do you mean, ‘good morning’?” Luke responds. “Do you mean that it is a good morning for you, or do you wish me a good morning, although it is obvious I’m not having one, or do you find that mornings in general are good?”
“All of them at once,” replies Kenobi.
It’s a great laugh line. It is also lifted, word for word, from "The Hobbit." J. R. R. Tolkien’s work was so widely read by the 1970s that Lucas could never have gotten away with the theft; it vanishes in the fourth draft.
So, there was always this sort of hidden uncertainty about, how much of the undeniable quality of the final script came from George Lucas and how much came from his wife.
Until we got the prequels, and found out the answer.
(More about the weird stuff in the drafts)
So they are, apparently, not really his movies.
About 11% of the Earth's land is Russia. It is bigger than three of the continents, and within a whisker of the size of the fourth (South America).
If you're doin' perfect, you're not learning
Fucking do it already
Raffensberger and Vindman and all them already made their choice, they didn’t try to pussyfoot around it or split the difference or give him the benefit of the doubt
You WILL be thrown in prison, or worse, if he gets a second term. All this careful procedural business as usual is doing is making it more likely that that’ll happen.
You’re on a boat, and there’s a guy with a handgun who keeps getting drunk and taking potshots at the captain and putting holes in the hull. And he keeps saying things need to change and he needs to be the captain. Stop hiding the liquor and hoping it’ll all blow over. Stop saying if this keeps on this way someone should do something.
It is YOU, your honor
YOU should be doing something
When an autonomous explosive naval vehicle and a boat filled with invaders love each other very very much…
This is the nature of humans
Yeah you're not free to run around any more, I'm gonna sit on you and you're gonna take me where I want to go.
Hey I'm gonna put you into a little enclosure so we can all come by and look at you. No, you can't have a friend in there.
Oh I'm gonna breed you with really short unusable legs and breathing problems because it's fun for me.
Also if you ever bite me or anything like that, or even exist in my neighborhood at all if you're realistically capable of doing any damage to us, then we're gonna have some fuckin problems, I guarantee you.