mozz

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[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

You joke, but I've seen polls where there's a big consensus of people saying the country's economy is going down the toilet, but also that their own state and their own family situation is doing quite a bit better than that going-down-the-toilet average.

That second half sheds some fascinating insight on the first half, and yet, it's almost never included in reporting of the polls.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

HERE we go

I was waiting for this.

A super obnoxious anti-Palestine user, who also supports Biden and thinks we have to stop Trump from getting elected. I didn't like dig through your profile in detail, but those were the only two categories of comments I saw right off. This is the higher level shilling I was waiting for -- this is gonna be way more effective than "Biden is the worst, I'm not voting" which at this point is just setting yourself up to get yelled at by everybody and solidify the groupthink in the opposite direction than you wanted to.

I think you're being a little cartoonish with it though. Like it's immediately obvious reading this comment that something is very wrong. I think you wanna be a little more subtle instead of just crashing through the gate like "FUCK PALESTINE, YAY BIDEN, AGBLARBLRBRA"

(Account created 14 days ago -- I predict we'll see a bunch more of these, too, maybe with a little more subtle of an approach 🤣)

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

This is grossly offensive. Calvin is great, and Calvin's dad is also great. The only Republican anywhere in a Calvin and Hobbes analogy should be Moe.

Calvin's dad is honestly right about things a lot of the time, but he has a ton of trouble getting support from Calvin because what he says isn't what Calvin wants to hear, and also because he's undeniably kind of lame. I'll leave it as an exercise for the reader what political party that makes him.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

IDK. Is it the well known Erdoğan / Drake / Blinken Alliance?

Also, I'm assuming you don't want to bet. If you change your mind, let me know.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The point isn’t that Putin needs to be on every list of bad people in the world (although, leaving him off such an extensive list of war criminals is pretty strange). The point is that if I rewind back to when every meme from the US political internet was talking about “Russian warship go fuck yourself” or like that, I bet that all of a sudden this page won’t anymore be in such lock-step with the generally popular topics for left person memes.

$20? I’m taking it from your reply that you don’t want to bet $50 but maybe a smaller one you’re okay with? I will actually bet with you before looking, if you want to take the bet.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I feel like this needs like a FAQ entry or something at this point.

Look at this thing I found on the front page -- it's Biden doing something that's both dumb and evil, and the top voted comment is cursing at him about it and calling him a dickhead.

Look at this thing where I said "at this rate, all the Palestinians will be dead before he works his way slowly and gradually around to the idea that maybe he’ll have to do more than a sternly worded phone call with Netanyahu in order for the killing to stop." and got a bunch of upvotes.

Criticism of Biden is very obviously fine. In many cases it’s wildly popular, because the people here bear no resemblance to the “blue MAGA” model you and your cohort are trying to perfectly organically promote into the discourse. But, in the manner of emotional manipulators everywhere, you are falling back on some objectively false explanation for why people are disagreeing with you. Because, it’s hard to directly argue against what they’re actually saying, but it’s easy to create a fiction where they are being stupid and unreasonable.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 4 points 1 year ago (5 children)

$50 says that Russia is strangely missing from their extensive concern about war crimes, in the same way that Donald Trump is strangely missing from their broad concern about pedophilia. Want to take the bet?

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Want to put some money on them having an anomalous lack of Ukraine memes? I would put some amount of money on them breaking with the almost unanimous consensus of the US left, and either just saying nothing about the war, or else putting some kind of unusual "both sides" anti-Imperialism-in-general-especially-the-Western-kind material into their rotation around the time the war was starting.

I could be 1,000% wrong about that, but that is currently my guess for what I would see if I looked back through their history. I don't have an Instagram account but I could make a temp account and poke around at some point.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Yeah. The one before the miderm election was just kind of calling back to the Iraq war and Obama and all, and making the pretty accurate point that everyone in the American system and our friends even the "good guys," tend to bomb the shit out of anywhere in the world that it serves our purposes to do so.

This one is really emphasizing Biden; like half his cabinet is on there. Trump is present, but it's not a bipartisan thing anymore. Also, someone else pointed out -- where the fuck is Putin? If you're gonna put up Erdoğan and Charlie Kirk and all?

Now I'm really curious to go back through the history of this page and see if they were pushing any Ukraine memes back when those were the new hotness, in the same way that they're posting all these Palestine memes today.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I saw both of those posts. The one thing I'll say about that first one is that it's only 3 hours old, and there are already several comments dismissing it as a 'Biden hate-boner' and a number saying 'yea this is fucked, but I'm voting Biden anyway because Trump is so much worse" apropos of nothing.

Yeah but they're allowed to say that, no? That's way different from saying "how dare you criticize Biden" or anything, and it's still notable to me that the top consensus view is that Biden is being a dickhead about it.

Honestly this, to me, is the most depressing thing about the shills being here -- like I would love to be in an environment where all of the people who don't like Israel killing as they've always done (which is, as far as I can tell, almost all of us) can say "Jesus Christ what a shitbag" when Biden gets up and says something like this, without needing to add in all these little qualifiers that we need now, because the discourse has become so distorted.

dismissing real critiques with electoral nonsense about zero-sum FPTP essentialism

I think it's unacceptable to let people evade addressing them just because there's a boogeyman lurking around the corner.

Are people evading addressing Gaza? Is there like a shortage of posts about how it's still happening and how Biden is complicit? This just sounds like a strawman to me. Like who here is cheering for the FPTP system (instead of just pointing out that it's a reality for this election and we should act accordingly)? Is there like a shortage of coverage of Gaza or the US's involvement in it under Biden? Most of the stuff I see talking about any of this gets upvoted and treated pretty sensibly, not like "evaded" or anything.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 2 points 1 year ago

However, Tenable noted, developing such an exploit would require a good deal of effort, being customized to the target's particular operating system and architecture.

Technically, this statement isn't wrong, but if it's meant as anything other than some friendly reassurance so that people can relax as they patch, then I have bad news for the writer about how memory corruption bugs operate

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (12 children)

These are some pretty fuckin high quality images; someone is putting some time into this.

Also, a notably high percentage of them involve Joe Biden in some way. It's basically "climate change is bad" "Israel is bad and Palestine's good" "Joe Biden is a big dickhead" in rotation, and not a whole lot more than that. One shows Jeffrey Epstein smiling warmly and reaching down from heaven to extend a hand to Biden.

Fascinating

Edit: I got curious -- tineye also found this version, which was also from right before an election, and a little modified. It included Bill and Hillary Clinton, but not Mitch McConnell or John Fetterman, and Biden was a lot less prominent, where he's pretty front and center in the new one (second only to Netanyahu.) Also, there wasn't an active genocide at that time to motivate the creation of it, but it still emerged in the same form at around the same point in the election cycle. Maybe I am reading too much into it but I thought it was interesting.

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