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Yeah. I feel like they probably just pick some random bullshit, and if people get botulism they look at reducing it, and if they throw away a quarter-million dollars worth of product that expired they look at increasing it, and if neither of those happens then they don't worry about it. I have no knowledge of it but even hearing that they do taste tests is a little surprising to me. But I am cynical.

I did know some people who were once "employed" on a sort of temp job that was excising already-passed expiration dates from a massive number of cans of fish, and then stamping new later dates on them.

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Sometimes expiration dates refer to when enough plastic from the packaging has decayed into the food material that it might be a problem. Bottled water works that way.

I don't know:

• How much science there is behind the dating
• How much plastic you're consuming in your food anyway and so who cares what's the difference
• Whether that's what's going on with this salt package specifically

But it's not automatically crazy for there to be an expiration date on an immortal product if it comes packaged up in plastic.

That is the exact opposite of what the UN report did. Did you actually read it, or if not where did you get all this information you're telling me?

The executive summary is only a few pages and breaks down a high level of what they found pretty well, and then you can skip to particular sections to see more detail. Pages 4 and 5 have a pretty good high-level overview of which allegations in which locations they believe they gathered reasonable grounds to believe, which allegations they believed they debunked, and which ones they weren't able to verify or debunk one way or another. Warning, it's slightly graphic.

In particular, they pretty immediately debunked some of the Israeli governments' accounts which got repeated early on in the media, actually specifically by comparing them against evidence and by doing their own interviews where they were able.

What on earth is this gibberish

This is the UN report which found strong evidence that widespread rape occurred during the October 7th attack, as well as debunking one or two particular claims that Israel was putting forth which got published in the news.

This is a press release from the UN about it.

For some reason, the couple of lies Israel told about sexual violence became the entire story, overshadowing the much larger truth about sexual violence by Hamas fighters. Most of the infamous NYT story was true.

Just because Israel is actively engaging in a genocide and are committing atrocities 10 times worse than whatever’s coming back to them doesn’t automatically mean that claims of atrocity by Hamas are automatically false.

This is the UN report which found strong evidence that widespread rape occurred during the October 7th attack, as well as debunking one or two particular claims that Israel was putting forth which got published in the news.

This is a press release from the UN about it.

For some reason, the couple of lies Israel told about sexual violence became the entire story, overshadowing the much larger truth about sexual violence by Hamas fighters. Most of the infamous NYT story was true.

Just because Israel is actively engaging in a genocide and are committing atrocities 10 times worse than whatever’s coming back to them doesn’t automatically mean that claims of atrocity by Hamas are automatically false.

Interesting... I wasn't planning on dealing with that kind of disparity (because by the time it's released and it has an audience score it's already dropped off the upcoming-releases radar). But maybe if a movie has a high tomatometer and doesn't have a thread yet, it makes one?

Right now I am just scraping the IMDB and RT public-facing pages -- there is an API for both, but they're both behind some sort of weirdness that I don't feel like dealing with. (Side note when did the internet get so frickin weird? I expected IMDB to be, IDK, open. Hey look -- "Since 1998, it has been owned and operated by IMDb.com, Inc., a subsidiary of Amazon" dude fuck the modern internet this is a bunch of crap)

Anyway

Be that as it may, I think just to have something that fires up once a week, figures out release schedules and schedules posts for the coming week, and then if something weird happens and it breaks because it's based on HTML parsing crap, then it won't be a huge inconvenience to fix it. That would be my feeling. Unless you know of a better place to grab the data from?

And yeah different release schedules for different countries is an issue, they're pretty different sometimes and making it just be US-centric doesn't sound like the way. I hadn't really gotten to tackling any of that because I didn't know what to do... but now thinking about it, here's what I think:

• There's a weekly "upcoming releases" post. A place to start for that could be having a list of everything coming out for the coming week or two for each of a few major regions. So you can skip to your region and see what's going on. Then, for each release, it has a link to the most recent comments thread relating to each movie, and a link to the RT page and what the RT rating is.
• If there's a movie that's coming out that doesn't yet have a thread discussing it, and it's above a certain score threshold on RT, then it makes one. That way there's always some kind of thread that it can link back to.

Side note, apparently RT is saying there's a "Run Lola Run" theatrical re-release coming soon, but the current design wouldn't post it, because it's not listed on IMDB with a release date. I wasn't planning on addressing that for any kind of first cut but if that kind of thing happens often it might be worth addressing in some fashion; that's honestly more interesting to me than most of the actual new releases this month.

LMK your thinking

Guys I don’t think they want to cease the firing

I would be happy to be proven wrong, but they had some chances already, and they just told Blinken yeah sure sounds good and then fell on the floor laughing when he left and went back to killing children

Yeah. Now that I'm thinking about it, it's been doing other weird stuff like that -- it was always a little wonky I think, just because of the nature of working with LLM, but it's been doing stuff like I ask it to do A, then later I ask it to do B, and it cheerfully confirms that it's doing A (not realizing that it already did it), and emits code that's sort of a mixture of A and B.

IDK. I've also heard good things about Mistral. I just tried to create a Claude account but the phone verification isn't working and I have no idea why. I may check it out though; if this is accurate then it's pretty fuckin fancy and the Haiku model is significantly cheaper and smarter even than the 3.5 API which has a notable lack of cleverness sometimes.

Hey, so what do you guys think for a format?

My thought was:

• Make a thread once a week with upcoming releases that week (maybe highlight ones that are >= 80% on RT in the title)
• Maybe make a separate thread, like once per day, for ones with >= 80% RT?

Personally for me, I feel like I would prefer to have separate threads for highly-rated movies; I feel like the generic amalgam of what's-coming-out probably won't be as useful / popular as separate threads for individual good movies that are coming out.

What do you think?

@Tenthrow@lemmy.world

Yeah, creating a thread for it sounds good. I'm looking at it now 👍🏻. I have matrix but pretty rarely use it