mozz

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[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The vast majority of people do not know enough about the world to be able to work out what they're receiving from the news is or isn't bullshit, and wouldn't have the mental tools to be able to work it out if they did have access to it. Their choice is between accepting what the news and social media are telling them, or else living in an incoherent jumble where all points of view are equally invalid and suspect and they are left with no idea at all of what's going on.

They actually get really uncomfortable in the landscape of "let's work out what is going on by subjecting these claims to criticism." It's disorienting for them, like upending of a bedrock unanimous-consensus world view that has been projected very sternly at them out of the TV. Like the introduction of something subversive and obviously wrong that they are going to let into their brain, and then they'll become wrong, too.

I actually can think of only one time when I was able to talk someone into admitting that the overall picture he was telling me probably wasn't true even though the internet had told him, and it took over an hour, and then he instantly followed it up by saying -- I am only slightly exaggerating -- that he was going to keep believing it anyway because holding onto it made him feel better.

Honestly, I'm somewhat surprised that American elections are still as connected to reality as they currently are. Their outcomes are like 25% connected to the reality of the candidates, where I would have expected more like 5.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Good old TV ads

Everyone knows! That is the way

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 2 points 1 year ago

I am no onionologist but I can confidently tell you that the people I saw were eating the "not" kind

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I promise you, you do not

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 14 points 1 year ago

They punched my button, pulled my covers
Blew my cool, ruint my ruse
They’ve rehabilitated this boy
Cut this motherfucker loose

The fish that nibbles on the wishing
Let him off his heavy rod
The gowned gavel-bangers fishing
Cut them loose from playing God.

Back off Johnson, back off peace freaks
From vendettas, from Vietnam
Cut loose the squares, cut loose the hippies
Cut loose the doves, cut loose the bomb.

You, the finger on the trigger
You, the hand that weaves the noose
You hold the blade of brutal freedom—
Cut all the motherfuckers loose.

-Ken Kesey

(Also, while searching for it, I found Ken Kesey’s jail journals for sale, used, at walmart.com for thirteen hundred dollars. When I clicked on the search result to see them, they were gone.)

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 3 points 1 year ago

You broke the code yes

😢

It is changing slowly but that doesn’t do anything for someone whose child is dying quickly, right now

Part of it is just the news. They would present it VERY differently and in a much more compelling fashion than they present what’s happening in Palestine today. But that’s only part. The average American also cares far more about white people and countries that are “our friends” than they do about people who are neither of those things.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hence why I said not currently

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's absolutely true. I'm just talking about how the US may be viewing the realpolitik of the situation and their interest in it, not saying anything about if it's just or unjust. If you want my judgement about it, Israel did it to themselves this situation, yes, 100%.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

You are correct. I wasn't trying to be super accurate about it, just trying to make the point, but Lebanon is an important omission.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Who among us hasn’t had some cups of water poured unfairly into our messenger bags of life

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

Okay done, I looked at a map

Now what?

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