As with so many things, Shaq said it perfectly.
“We as American people, we do a lot of business in China, and they know and understand our values, and we understand their values. And one of our best values here in America is free speech. We’re allowed to say what we want to say, and we’re allowed to speak up about injustices, and that’s just how it goes. And if people don’t understand that, that’s something that they have to deal with.”
even taking about issues like this one outside of !worldnews will get you called out for spreading "Republican propaganda" (as you can't make it seem that Biden and his allies want to expand the current war)
You are constructing a counter factual universe here and trying to impose the weird viewpoint on everyone else by sheer repetition. Talking about Israel’s crimes, in this or pretty much any other place on Lemmy, is obviously fine. I dare you to find me even a single place where someone talks about Israel and someone else chimes in with “how dare you! You are making Biden look bad!” out of the blue, or anything else that is remotely like that interaction.
What people respond negatively to, I think, is a specific gang of accounts that tie every single story about anything somewhere in the world back to “And that’s why don’t vote for Biden!” when the pure logic of it (or of him being happy about Israel’s war let alone wanting it to expand) makes no sense at all.
Israel can dictate the terms, though. They can just say what they want, and keep killing whether or not Hamas agrees.
I won’t say Hamas is a good partner for peace because they are not. (And, in fact, their violence and corruption is part of why Likud supports them above other much better Palestinian leadership.) But Israel is the issue. No one who is bombing, starving, and displacing millions of people who just want to live and be able to stop suffering can simultaneously complain that their victims aren’t being reasonable enough in the peace process.
Until they drop rent by $200/mo and start cleaning up again
But they are planning on whining aggressively for quite a while before they stoop that low, that’s an absolute last resort. And, if it does calm down, they plan to raise it $200/mo and try again
Charlie Brown’s got a real good feeling about it this time
The issue the other 8 times was surely, he says, that the terms and conditions just hadn’t been 100% hammered out into acceptable details
It is not wrong and makes some vague nods at Project 2025 or what Mark Esper said, but mostly, yes. This article is about 75% “both sides.”
It’s like the building is on fire and someone’s standing up at length and explaining how hiding in a corner isn’t a good idea, how the high height of the building and the increasing fire and the people who are actively blocking the exits are all valid significant concerns…
Like bro LET’S FIGHT THE FIRE OR GET OUT OF THE BUILDING.
Any article that includes phrases like “Frustration at the political sclerosis in Washington” or “a broken two-party system, growing partisan divisions” is a bunch of shit
The problem is THEY WANT TO KILL THEIR POLITICAL OPPONENTS AND THE SUPREME COURT SAID IT IS OKAY FOR THEM TO DO THAT
That’s not fucking POLITICAL SCLEROSIS
Trump dying before everything hits the fan and resolves would be an unmitigated catastrophe.
One of the major saving graces about this quite credible attempt by fascistic forces to take over the US is that Trump is at the helm, and he is literally one of the planet’s most incompetent and unlikable humans.
If the whole machinery gets set up as well as it is right now, and then someone who’s capable of doing more than being the world’s biggest asshole and thief gets in charge of it, then God help us, for real.
you were trying to suggest that Biden wasn't the most pro-israel politician of all time, when its like, extremely well documented thats who the guy is
Do you know what the pro-Israel politician who is his opponent in the current election wants to do in Gaza?
Or how the pro-Israel politicians in congress reacted when he paused weapons shipments?
Biden’s support for Israel is unconscionable. They’re committing an active genocide and he’s arming them while they’re doing it.
What I said wasn’t that any of that wasn’t happening. It was that that stuff is all very usual for US presidents. Coups and killings, drone strikes and starving kids. It’s all what they do. Every US President since Carter has voiced their full throated support for Israel for decades, as the whole time they have slaughtered and starved, made apartheid and taken land.
Biden’s actually highly unusual in that he made sanctions on settlers, pushed hard for a cease fire, tried to provide aid, and paused weapons shipments. None of that, to me, means he deserves any credit. He should be snatching Netanyahu and taking him to the ICC, and landing US troops to shoot IDF members in the face if they try to go around killing anybody. But, pretending that he somehow represents a downward departure from the norm for US leaders is to me unsupported by the evidence. US leaders fuckin love war crimes by our allies.
You can represent what I just said, or why it is that the NYT clearly loves Israel and hates Biden, any way that you want, say I am lying, whatever. But that’s how I feel about it.
This is an impressively corkscrewed logical construction. Let me offer a simpler one:
The Times's uncritical support for Israel is of a piece with its loud and unwavering recent criticism of Biden. The concordance brought about between your pretense that they were ever nice to Biden, and your pretense that Biden is an unusually pro-Israel US president, is imaginary, because neither of those ever happened.
The Times is just leaning hard into the most right-wing end of US politics that doesn't fall completely into Naziism, in both cases, as they usually do with most things and particularly since 2022 when the new guy took over.
Interestingly enough, a lot of the tactics are a lot the same as what happened in 2016:
I wish it wasn't, but yes
Yeah or a protestor at Columbia or a teacher in Oklahoma or working for the CDC or New York Times or fuck me what the fuck is happening
(I mean it is clear that Florida and Oklahoma and the administration at Columbia are rebelling against the American system. I think their tendencies are universal which includes American governing bodies too. I think part of the good sense of the American system is recognizing that people of every nationality and supposed-allegiance have certain tendencies when you put them in charge, and it isn’t at all a bad thing for them to get scared that if they act on them, someone might carry them out of the building and throw them in the harbor and find someone else to put in charge instead.)