mozz

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[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We need one war about every 3 generations, as everyone who remembers the lessons of the last big one dies, and there’s no one around who understands the urgency

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 1 points 1 year ago

That too, yes. But my main point is that Trump is such a disorganized moron that I think it’s possible that having him at the helm will undo a lot of the potential effectiveness of Project 2025. Having almost anyone else in charge of its implementation will amp up the terrifyingness level by quite a bit, and it already wasn’t small.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 12 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Whether you vote or not isn't important to me as long as whoever gets elected, you continue to fight for a better world via direct action.

If Trump gets elected, you may start getting shot for fighting for a better world via direct action. Or for many other things.

The Democrats created this situation,

100% true

and they deserve to face consequences for it.

Along with millions or potentially billions of others, who didn’t do anything wrong?

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

They didn't say Biden had any part in the genocide, they said:

There is a very real chance that Biden’s unquestioning support of Israel will lead to WW3.

Bibi knows whatever happens, Biden will always have his back. He can’t get that loyalty from any other US president

Those are two dubious statements followed by a third that is explicitly and laughably objectively false. Every US president has had Israel's back. The idea that Biden is somehow exceptional is the part that is Republican propaganda, not the idea that he has any part. He clearly has quite a large part in it, I think. I would stop short of saying he's "responsible" for it at this point, although I guess that one is debatable by people of good faith.

But saying he's a departure from the norm for US presidents because of his nearly-total support for Israel is explicitly false, and is being used quite effectively as propaganda against him in this election, yes. When was there a US president who didn't support Israel?

Also, I want to get clear on this, too: Are you saying people should be unable to say that this is Republican propaganda? Like not allowed to say that, something is wrong with the forum if they're allowed to make that claim about you? Or no?

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 12 points 1 year ago

I think the pure length of it introduces enough delay before encountering the really terrifying parts and might interfere with the punch of the message. I might try to do a modified version with some bold text and larger sections so some of the strong full impact comes across right away, without trying to reduce the detail or the scope

Also, I think it is relevant to repeat the founders’ feeling on it. The “government” doesn’t “let” you do anything. Everyone’s just born into the earth into this wild and semiorganized place, as weird social beings that are half monkeys and half made up of something a lot more inspirational. And from time to time, they want to set up a system they all agree on so they can have clean water and roadways and courts and someone centrally in charge of the economy, things like that. But, sometimes like a few thousand people put temporarily in charge of all that start to look around at all the guns and money in their command and get confused and think they have the right to tell 400 million other people “hey check it out you have to do what I say, I DGAF what you think or of it’s right, that’s just what’s up.” And then when that happens it is the job of the 400 million to re educate them on what’s up.

And you could say that if they don’t, they deserve what happens. But honestly it’s not even a statement of deserves or not, or right and wrong. It is simply a statement of the reality of what happens. Most of things like the bill of rights is understood today as like, what the government is “allowed” to restrict and not, but the founders’ view of it was a lot more akin to, these are some examples of what people will do as inherent parts of their nature and God help you if you try to tell them they can’t, and they become alert and organized.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Back in the 1990s it was pretty accurate. Both parties were trash, okay yeah there was a marginal amount of difference I guess but they were both engaged in fucking the American people and barely distinguishable at the end of the day.

Since then, the Democrats got a moderate amount better, and the Republicans turned into open Nazis. Anyone still saying "political gridlock" or whatever it is is the problem, had better wake the fuck up.

The part that really blows my mind is places like the New York Times getting all pissy with Biden, apparently because his staff wouldn't set up an interview with him or treat the NYT like kings of the realm like they though they deserved, and so they've decided to go after him like Joffrey after someone hurt his feelings. They will absolutely be out of work looking for new careers in an unfolding hellscape, at best, or maybe in the dock in a show trial or worse, if Project 2025 gets off the ground. They are literally endangering their own individual personal safety. I don't get it.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Nature is a cold hearted bitch. Worse than any person you have ever encountered.

Starvation, hunger, exhaustion, untreated injuries, fear, pain, and death.

Humanity is what we bring to the table. This whole fiction you and I get to inhabit where everything’s warm, everything’s clean, the store is full of food, someone comes to help you and take care of you if you’re sick or injured, humans made all that shit up, piece by piece.

Keep it going. Wild place is wild place. Human place is human place, and it’s pretty fuckin far from perfect so far. It’s good enough now that if you’re from the lucky countries you can see the heartless inhumanity in the natural world by way of contrast. But it’s for damn sure not done yet.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

What, exactly, are you saying happened in this comment thread you're linking to? And then why it was wrong? I just want to have it straight before I address it.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 41 points 1 year ago

He didn’t actually say stay off the internet; that was my oversimplified retelling. A little more complete but still oversimplified version would be: Be careful and don’t share more than what you think is safe to share, and try to focus on the real world as much as you can. The real world doesn’t have mass surveillance in quite such a prepackaged and straightforward fashion, and it is where all the real outcomes good or bad will eventually take place anyway, so prioritize it as much as you can.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 122 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

“On Tyranny” has some great guidance on this, as well as some guidance on how to do what you can to help put the brakes on it happening.

TL;DR there’s quite a lot more, but stay off the internet, get used to making small talk, making eye contact. Know who’s in your community physically and who has your back. Renew your passport, make friends in other countries if you can. Make friends. Stay off the internet.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 4 points 1 year ago

I suspect that all the “don’t tread on me” “Obama is shredding the constitution” “1776” iconography is deliberately chosen by the propaganda designers, to mentally inoculate the followers against someone pointing out later on that they are treading all over a whole bunch of people and shredding the constitution.

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