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... for 18 minutes

With their existing infrastructure in the US which Russia doesn't have

And it was detected (and was trivial to fix once detected it sounds like) even before people were particularly alerted to this as a possibility

Okay, so dude can beat the fuck out of my friend, and you're going to imply the cops need to die if they try to prevent him and he gets violent with them as a result.

Good to know. Thanks for your insight.

Obviously police brutality does happen -- my point was that it is relevant to know whether it is happening 1% of the time, or 50% of the time, or 99% of the time. You need to know when the police are using force justifiably, or not. Clinging to a comforting and poppycock illusion that they should use lethal force 0% of the time is just as silly as someone else who might cling to the comforting and poppycock illusion that them using lethal force is justified 100% of the time. The truth is in the middle, and it's important to find out where in the middle, instead of just insisting that whatever prejudices you came in with are obviously the reality.

Okay, so what if they walk up on the porch to talk to that guy and he pulls a gun and points it at them? What then? Deescalation?

So Ivan Sabotageovich calls up someone who works at Level3

Says "Hey broski I want you to start announcing bogus BGP routes"

Guy who answers the phone says "What? Why would I do that?"

Guy on the phone says "I'll give you rubles"

Guy who answers the phone says my brother in Christ I make $175k per year and I will get fired and they'll fix it in about 25 minutes anyway, sorting out and fixing stuff like this is kind of why people like me are employed here and there are a lot of us watching what happens

Guy on the phone says I can also give you TONS of unrefined crude oil and methane, or precision aircraft parts from the 1990s

Guy who answers says I need to go now, good luck though

Guy on the phone says blyat as the line goes dead

See my question to Wytch

I've interacted with the cops several times in my life. Off the top of my head, I think the most recent time was a friend of mine's roommate who was threatening her with physical harm. They came, talked to the guy, and took him away. When the judge was a little bit dismissive about granting her a protective order, the next day, the cop was the one who got outraged and got her a new hearing at which she got her protective order so the guy wouldn't hurt her.

So... what? The cops in that situation should have just stayed away from her house, and let him maybe beat the fuck out of her? Explain it to me what you think should happen; have cops pursue non violence in all situations? Like never kill anyone no matter what the person does? Never use physical force? What should happen, in my friend's situation? What if the guy beats the fuck out of her, and then they see him on the porch of a house some time later -- should they stay off the porch?

I mean you are correct that things like this are a shit show if you are directly involved, but my point is that the wider world can continue fairly unimpeded. Unless they have some kind of magic backhoe that can cut every backbone cable all at once or something, I think the impact in terms of bringing the West's telecommunications to its knees is going to be more or less nil.

Is he really "in big trouble", though? I feel like he’s not in any trouble, and if anything all the people who had the cops come to their house and take all their stuff are in trouble

Hey what is that big other shoe doing up there

What? The whole fuckin internet is the backup plan

Like bro do you even BGP?

Hey, that's new! Usually people just call me a centrist or do some strawmans. Kudos.