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Nothing in their marketing says they'll refuse to comply with lawful orders.

Maybe not now, but it used to say 'your privacy comes first' which certainly gave the impression privacy would be more important than blindly believing and obeying courts.

Thanks for the link to their report.

Most of those still rely on some company to host a server, except Briar, and in practice most Briar users are still relying on companies to access Tor to connect.

They are more robust, not perfect.

I don't know about 'should' but wasn't that the impression their marketing tried to give? Or at least that they would fight to defend user privacy for noble activists? But when challenged, its owners seem to have folded quicker than a strapontin.

you will never know if they do.

You might, if you use a unique address, but it's rare.

And yet, legal entities are often found guilty of not complying with the law. I think people were expecting Proton to at least try to fight a morally-questionable court order.

There are hundreds of truly-private alternatives, many with no company involved at all.

Such as...? I bet some ISPs or hardware maker companies are involved at some point.

Do Swiss courts not allow any defence to be presented?

Yes, he has, by Virginia Giuffre.

The Epstein island orgy accusations involve the underaged, as some participants were 17 and the age of consent was 18 there.

Did anyone else read 'Manchester chip factory' and wish it was the potato sort of chip (aka fries)? 🤣

I guess on user and recipient privacy, based on where this was posted.

The popular myth is that Swiss privacy law is so strong that banks can hide gold and profits for major criminals. It wasn't to Proton's benefit to correct that.