masterofballs

Right. It was bad law to begin with. You can't just make up stuff in the constitution. Get a federal law passed or stop getting fucked.

It's basically a rebuttal of your adventist study. Which is a terrible study and a example of how bad science can mislead people. It's pushed by religious zealots. And even within that community they aren't vegan at all. Cheese and eggs have most of the important animal nutrition. So if poor nutrition causes a short life adding in milk, cheese, and eggs is going to greatly reduce that. Anyways, other's have pointed out that smoking has been controlled for. When ever someone mentions smoking they always brush over like Japan, South Korea, the decreased rate of smoking in America with decreased beef consumption and now life getting shorter. There is no correlation between high meat consumption and lower life expectancy when you control for junk food. It almost always results in a higher life expectancy. But more importantly

THERE IS NO OBSERVATIONAL STUDY that shows meat to reduce life expectancy. Not one.

All of these studies are done with highly inaccurate questionnaires. Where they can just ignore whole sets of data they don't agree with. Which is why it's better just to look at total meat consumption per capita than believe highly politicized garbage meta analysis that don't prove anything and at best suggest more study.

But I really wonder. Vegans practical worship the way Indians eat. If meat consumption contributed to heart disease at all, why don't Indians live to 70?

that is the closest mankind has ever gotten to a vegetarian society. They still eat chicken, milk, occasional goat but overall their meat consumption is some of the lowest.

they eat whole foods too.

1. You have not provided any observational controlled studies at all.
2. But fine https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8881926/ There is one. But you don't actually need some phd to sign off on it you can look at meat consumption country to country and see for yourself.

And of course meat consumption increases life expectancy. It is both a more evolutionary consistent diet and contains the most amount of nutrition per calorie.

If you take almost any animal on earth and radically change it's diet it will develop health problems.

It's only through weird online vegan subculture that you have managed to be so brain washed. After you've been on that shitty diet for 10 years and your teeth start falling out you'll start to cheat if you haven't already. It's funny, vegans almost always cheat with the same stuff. raw fish and eggs most common. Some with a rare steak. Some of the most nutritious foods on earth.

And if you didn't know, the cheapest Walmart egg has more nutrition than any plant food on earth. If you consider variety. There may be a few plants with 1 nutrient in high amount but as far as balanced nutrition, the shittiest egg is better than anything in the vegan section.

there’s been an association between vegetarian/vegan diets and lower prevalence of disease and obesity.

I think you are implying association means causation. There’s also a direct correlation between life expectancy and per capita wealth, which you’re conveniently ignoring. Most of the data you pull that kinda garbage from comes from highly biased seventh day Adventist studies.

The point is there has never been a observational study that has shown eating meat decreases life expectancy. And looking at per meat consumption at a society level we see high meat consumption correlate with longer life not shorter life. Which indicates to me vegetarian diets are shit. I do believe I recently read about a Harvard study which showed low carb mostly meat diets reduce diabetes markers at-least. If you are interested I can get you the link.

Oh there is plenty of data. Just look at life expectancy. Look at the highest meat consumption per person vs the lowest. India has a shit life expectancy and eats very little meat. Japan and hongkong have very high meat consumption and live very long.

are inherently necessary for human health?

Yes and until I see a multi-generational family all fed Vegan from birth till pregnancy and birth again I'll maintain that position. Or see any reasonal percentage of healthy athletes using a vegan diet from before their athletic career started well into the height of their athletic career.

Meat is absolutely required for human health. You can survive on some really shitty food for a long time but any vegan would be healthier if they included animal foods 100%.

I have 10,000 years of human health outcomes to prove eating meat is healthy. I don't need long term data to show that not eating meat, only eating candy, is unhealthy.

The fact that vegans can't become Olympic athletes is proof it isn't healthy.

Hope they sue hard. You know this kinda thing is funded by some dark people.

My claim was that a plant-based (no animal products) diet can be nutritionally complete. I’m backing that claim up by citing non-animal sources of nutrients.

And my point is that we don't define a rule by stray data points. Even if one person manages to survive on a unnatural diet like a vegan diet without significant problems it does not make it nutritionally complete, or healthy.

There is no evidence you can produce a healthy society without animal products. Because it's never been done. Every single body builder (usually whey protein when they started), every single Olympic athlete has eatin meat. You may be able to find 1 who is lying and said they were born vegan. I think I saw 1 athlete who said that but I don't buy it and even 1 doesn't disapprove the rule. Nearly if not every single high performance individual and society on the planet was built eating animals.

No amount of 20 year old made youtube videos has shown otherwise. No fat Harvard grad clinging to bad meta analysis science has shown meat to shorten a life with actual observational science. Because it doesn't

You keep saying that humans don't need animal products but have yet to provide a example society who have not consumed animal products. Your Vegan brain fog has made it impossible for you to argue in good faith and likely unable to reproduce.

You can get plenty of beta-carotine as well as preformed vitamin A on a plant based diet

Not true for all people period end of story as peer reviewed papers show. I don't get why you npc's keep repeating yourself without resolving points.