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I mean I can point you to it explicitly happening.

And I can also point you to situations where dogpiling happens regardless of any reasonable stake the mods would have on that discussion. If it happens with or without editorial moderation, then editorial moderation is not the cause.

I’ve been working on something broader that focuses on how editorial moderation shifted specific sub’s into echo chambers over the course of 2023-2024 to cultivate a community with a largely homogeneous perspective that was antiseptic to dissent. So I’ve been pulling and working on the data for this for quite a while.

I’ve got ample evidence to support my above statement. This isn’t speculation, and moderation has even explicitly said that they’ve moderated in a fashion to cultivate specific political narratives that agree with their biases.

If you have data to show already, do it now.

The "mute replies" button would be great, indeed. It would solve one of the issues with dogpiling. But other two remain:

1. it discourages the participation of new users - because those are seeing the dogpile in full force, and they know they'll be dogpiled once they say something the local hivemind disagrees with
2. it adds unnecessary noise to discussions - because it's a bunch of people saying the same shit over and over

Neither thing is welcome when you think about community growth.

Dogpiling affects even views that are orthogonal to what the mods would enforce. So it's a more of a general problem.

I've noticed the start of the dog pile is typically not the issue. Often it starts by accident; like two users coincidentally replying the same thing to a third one, seconds apart, because they didn't see each other's reply. I feel like most people would immediately see it and say "nah, coincidence".

The issue is how it keeps going on and on and on. So perhaps this could be addressed by avoiding the pile to grow, instead of just avoiding it from beginning? Basically, different rules for early and late replies.

I'm just throwing ideas in, mind you.

The downvotes are an example of behaviour typically associated with dogpiling. Focus on the unreasonably large amount of replies adding practically no information each.

A few potential ways to address this:

1. a rule against dogpiling
2. a rule against replying without adding new information
3. harsher enforcement of rules when you notice someone being dogpiled

I'd probably pick #3 but all of them are problematic: #1 and #2 can be misused by the mod because they have huge grey areas, #3 creates double standards. ("So you're saying a «go drink bleach» is OK, but «this is dumb» is not???")

Got it - sorry for the confusion then!

And I need to admit that your take of the mod = Maxwell's demon thing is way more interesting.

The perfect place wouldn’t allow them [people bringing their own shit?] anyway.

As in, isolating the system? No perfect isolation is possible; and even if it was, it would limit the amount of information/entropy of the place. In other words the community would get stale and die.

We could pretend moderators are like Maxwell's demon, able to sift the newbies one by one; if they're bringing shit, don't let them in. The amount of energy necessary to do so makes it unfeasible.

There's a lot of good info in the video. And I recommend people to watch it fully, before taking conclusions about the content.

A few highlights:

• Speaking practice actually helps a fair bit. At the least with phonetics (training muscle memory) and grammar (you catch patterns you otherwise wouldn't).
• The three factors he mentions near the end (motivation, self-esteem, anxiety) are what a lot of teachers and professors do wrong - because they make you feel like you're in some group therapy.
• Even if you don't understand what is said, focus on the situation. He shows this rather well with the Spock example. (i.e. since context dictates the meaning of the text, even if you don't get the text you can still retrieve info from the context.)

Just the authors flexing; some papers only have English abstracts, or English + another language, like this.

The discovery lends physical evidence to long-standing theories regarding Tiwanaku’s influence beyond its core territory. There has been debate among scholars regarding the extent of the civilization’s power, but Palaspata now offers definitive proof of state-level investment in peripheral infrastructure.

Isn't that pretty much established already though? I mean, the 600~1000 CE boil down to Tiahuanaco and Huari splitting the Andes, with both being powerful enough to discourage an invasion from each other. And it's well-established that the Huari had fairly decent peripheral infra-structure, so odds are Tiahuanaco was the same in this aspect.

The difference between both links is huge - one shows 7%, another 73%. Since I have no idea which is more reliable, nor I think this difference is due to time (the FF link is from 2022), let's go with your link instead.

73% Wayland means 27% X11. It's still a lot; not a big problem in KDE's case, since its developers are rather emphatic on still maintaining the X11 session. Can't say the same about GNOME.