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[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Glad you found it; depending on the app the interface might be a bit different.

It's showing it already for me!

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

It’s absolutely civil behavior

Nah. You're being clearly belittling through the whole thread. Too eager to voice your own opinion, but un-eager to dialogue.

[Before someone distorts the above, be aware plenty communists also do this sometimes. Including myself.]

I was asked for MY definition of it. And I gave it.

What you did is perhaps easier to see from the other side. Pretend you asked a communist their definition of communism, and they answered one of those two things:

  1. "Communism is a post-socialism system, where class hierarchy ceased to exist, acc. to Marxist theory".
  2. "Communism is a system that solves all plagues of capitalism, re-enabling freedom for the population, so you don't need a Luigi Mangione dirtying his hands."

#1 is giving you a definition. #2 isn't. What you did there was way closer to #2 than to #1.

And by the context it's clear Nay asked for your equivalent of #1 - because it's known communists and non-communists use the word "communism" to refer to different things.

I speak on authority of my opinions of things because I get to do that.

Someone's opinions can lead them to adopt one or another definition, but the definition itself is not an opinion; they're two different cans of worms. One should not be misrepresented as the other.

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I mentioned it in another comment chain, but IMO both Nay and Wren (as a user) were at fault; so while the way Wren as a mod handled Nay was correct, his behaviour as a user was really bad, and part of the reason Nay was rude - this sort of escalation takes two users*. So yes, I'm aware Wren is no voice of justice here.

About your ban, the modlog claims it to be due to "report harassment". It might be bullshit, it might be accurate, dunno; I'd need to see the reports to take any meaningful conclusion. At least your messages (here and here) look fine for me; they're a bit on the rougher side, but both were still within the acceptable IMO.

*before someone calls me out on my own behaviour: yes, I'm aware I do the same sometimes. It's also bad - I'm not pretending to be a saint either.

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 17 points 2 months ago

Reminder there's !houseplants@mander.xyz. I'm not affiliated with the mods there, but the comm is really good; I remember posting some orchid for id there and the folks there were quick to lead me to the right direction. If image models are ruining houseplant comms, that one is an exception :)

On-topic: this will get rougher with time. And it isn't just plants; it's everything. You could already generate fictional but realistic images of everything, but those models make it faster and easier, so of course some disingenuous people use it for scams since it doesn't require any sort of skill any more. Eventually I think people will wise up, and learn to not trust images or videos, but while this doesn't happen...

And the same deal applies to text content. Even if the content is human-made, you shouldn't be relying on a single source of info, to begin with; now with text generators you'll get even more babble, so the odds your "single source" is inaccurate raise sharply. For example if you need info on how to care about your pet potato plant you should be seeing a half dozen sites, cross-checking info, and seeing if some of them feel off.

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

A good chunk of the pic is out of focus, but the centre is really sharp, and really easy to identify. I hope someone does it; dunno which lichen it is, but I've seen plenty of it here (Curitiba city; Cfb climate, South America).

How do you guys get the image visible on the post itself? I need to open it to see it, I must be doing something wrong

You need to insert the location of the image in the field "Image:", when creating or editing the post. In the desktop:

In Jerboa:

In other phone applications it's likely the same. If you just insert the picture in the body of the post, like you did, you won't get it appearing before you open the post.

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 19 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Your title suggests Lemmy is proprietary which it is not.

Lemmy and KBin are both open source. [implying: "OP suggests Lemmy and/or KBin are not open source"]

*sigh* in no moment the OOP even implies that.


On-topic: PieFed is packed with a bunch of interesting stuff, mentioned by another user in that thread: better resource usage, better mod tools, gallery view, the ability to combine comments from different comms, a multi-reddit-like feature... and, additionally:

  • a button to mute all replies to your comment
  • an "attitude" score, to detect people who are excessively combative
  • filter posts based on keywords

I'm actually rather excited for it, because it seems to be progressing at a fast pace.

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 6 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I don’t feel I behaved as properly as I maybe should have, but I was within the rules.

Nah. t's clear that you were not being civil in that conversation: for example

  • when asked for a definition, you gave your subjective takes on that economic system as if it was a definition
  • "and yet they are" = "NO U". It's simply contradicting what someone else says, without adding new info.

Those things might not be overtly aggressive, but they rub people off the wrong way; that is not civil behaviour IMO.

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

YDI: you deserved it. YDM: you deserved more.

Given the whole content of the thread I feel like 5d for each would be fair - it's long enough to not make it look like a slap on the wrist, but short enough to acknowledge "once the ban is over you're welcome here, but please behave better".

Perhaps leading by example would have prevented some of the escalation though. He might want to give himself a ban for being uncivil.

100% agree on that. It's the mod's responsibility to set up the civility standards in a community, and Wren themself set the bar really low. You need to be way more cool-headed in a comm you mod than one you don't.

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 7 points 2 months ago

Ignorant does not mean stupid or asshole.

What matters here is that people will interpret "ignorant" as an insult, and you have other ways to convey the same (e.g. "uninformed", "clueless", etc.)

Note: I actually agree with your argumentation in the thread. The issue is tone. It's because of that tone I think you deserved it.

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

As a user you were also behaving poorly there; in fact your interaction with the OP sounds like two children "waaaaah, I asked you first!!11one" at each other. I'm not also blind to the blatant straw man you set up right off the bat, and that Nay was actually spot on when they asked "What -is- communism to you?". I might agree with the way you handled Nay as a mod, but frankly? If I saw both in one of my comms I'd be giving both the same short end of the stick.

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 21 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (14 children)

Based on the information provided ITT and the OP, YDI; potentially YDM.

You went overboard with "that doesn't make you look ignorant" because most people will interpret it as insulting, regardless of being true or false. On itself, that wouldn't warrant a ban, only a mod warning; and that's exactly what the mod did.

Then you kept going. Even after the mod warning. You deserved that 1d ban, and probably more. (To be frank I don't even see a 1d ban as a punishment, it's more like giving time for everyone to chill their heads.)

Don't get me wrong; I'm no saint, and I've probably said the same shit you said a thousand times. But in those situations you need to learn when to back off.


EDIT: based on this message, YDM for sure. Yes, the mod is also behaving a bit like an arsehole, but you're going full pass-aggro there.

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 5 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Correspondence with European scripts:

  • the OG Latin and block letter Cyrillic are like like katakana (sharp, stabby letters)
  • Greek is like hiragana (loopy, adorable letters)
  • the "weird" Latin we use today is like Burmese, except sideways (butts everywhere)
  • cursive Cyrillic is like Mongolian, except the rain is over (the knives are poking into the ground)

Devanagari has no European equivalent because Devanagari is perfect, since it's used to write Sanskrit and Sanskrit is the mother of all languages. Except of ULTRAFRENCH of course.

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