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The missing piece is that hiding bad news should be harder. For example, if you're a researcher and all you claim from your research are the good news, people (and the ideal Bayesian agent) should immediately suspect "maybe they're hiding the bad news".

Hyde says that the problem is that, although scientific facts are taught at school, the facts "about" science are not taught well enough.

Bingo. They do a poor job teaching people:

• That failures are not only expected, but welcome; they'll guide future successes.
• That conflicts of interest do happen, and peer reviewing is a way to address them.
• That the current leading theory on something is simply the current best explanation, not some immutable truth.
• That science doesn't say "trust me"; it shows you the data, and asks you to find a better way to explain it.

We (people all around the world, I think?) also do a poor job at teaching ourselves basic rationality:

• That you should get suspicious of any institution or group that only shows the good parts - they're likely hiding shit.
• Why "trust me" is an insult towards the hearer's intelligence.
• Why people shouldn't vomit certainty on things they cannot reliably know.

Ok have you personally taken responsibility for the fact that your media consumption has made your worldview delusional?

This is a loaded question on the same level as "did you stop beating your wife? Yes or no?".

But let's bite: yes.

I come from a scientific background. And you don't get to keep delusions about something when reality is making you interact with that thing over and over, regardless of the origin of said delusions. You face them, as soon as you step into the uni. And one of the things I often talk with people is how science is misrepresented in media, specially after that clown of the former president of my country started babbling about Ivermectin*.

And, due to the nature of the content of this community, I expect at least some of the other people in this comm to be in the same situation as me - to be from a scientific background (or even scientists themselves) and to try to spread awareness on how media misrepresents science, the scientific method, and scientists.

So your "all of you"? Bullshit.

Unless you're decontextualising the whole thing to talk about media-based delusions in general, even if the context screams "regarding science".

(Or perhaps you'll try to change goalposts and say something like "ackshyually, taking responsibility is something else lol lmao.)

Nope? Ok then I am not making an assumption,

Even if your assumption was true (it is not), it would be still an assumption. You're still vomiting certainty about something you cannot reliably know, such as what all individuals in a whole group of people do or don't.

I am stating human nature

I think that both of us know that you're bullshitting.

*just to point out another assumption you're voicing in your comment: "It is why we have a racist reality tv show actor as president". Why do you think everybody here is American?

EDIT: note this topic itself is already a way to take responsibility for all the crap media shows dressed as science. For a start:

what are LadyButterfly, Admetus, klemptor and me doing here, if not highlighting that media grossly oversimplifies Physics?

Yup, pretty much.

For me, an example of that not mentioned in the thread is Yahoo Answers. At least where I live people used Answers a fair bit; first for its intended purpose (Q&A), then to discuss random stuff, under pseudonyms.

But Yahoo never gave enough of a fuck to Answers. Instead the place festered with trolls (...like me, I know), people gaming the points system, and low quality content. Becoming emptier and emptier, until it was eventually closed down.

If Yahoo played its cards right, Quora would never exist, and Reddit would be forever stuck as "we just share links here", it wouldn't evolve into a forums-like, forums-killing platform. Lemmy would still pop up, I believe, but as an alternative to some Yahoo service geared towards discussion.

The social media company last week denied the allegations, calling them 'politically motivated.'

"We don't want some rogue fascists from the outside to meddle in our elections" is politically motivated, and there's nothing wrong with it.

So congrats for the Apartheid-born moron and his drones: you're correct and wrong at the same time.

If Yahoo acquired either Google or Facebook, we would have probably forgotten about it. And instead something else would spawn on its place, and we'd be asking why Yahoo didn't buy that something else. [edit reason: grammar.]

He's still anxious about people mocking his hobbies, isn't he? And then suddenly they don't care, or rather they do care but for the good reasons.

I've been using SMB from the Linux side of the things and File Manager+ from the Android side. Both are things I'd already have even without that:

• SMB - I have it since my mum had that old W7 laptop, so she can store her junk in my computer. (Her laptop had notoriously small disk space). Eventually its usage evolved into my main method to share files at home, specially with the TV box, so I can torrent full anime seasons and watch them from the TV.
• File Manager Plus - because the Google one is rubbish, and this one has network access. That's it.

I might try some of those out though. Packet in special looks promising.

all of you refuse to face

Stop assuming.

Can I materialise just enough to move objects? Then I'd be hiding people's keys, unpairing their socks, moving furnitures ever so slightly to screw with their muscle memory, playing with their cats 3AM. Stuff like this, just for funzies.

Most things people mentioned here, plus: the ability to buy separated components with different specs, and build your smartphone at home. Like a PC.

(I'm aware this will probably never happen.)

why isn’t there H₂O₂

Because the undergrads used it for acetone peroxide.