logicbomb

Donald Trump was born in 1946. WW2 ended in 1945. Pretty clear who the father is in this comic.

over here in Real World Land, what will happen is those women will get abused, physically and sexually

I wasn't talking about that because it was an impossible hypothetical designed to show one aspect. Just the idea of forcing women to date men is abusive in itself. You don't need to expound on the other consequences. It was already horrible, but I was making a point about something else.

It's like how people learn logic in elementary school. If I say, "Some birds are red," that doesn't imply that I'm saying, "No birds are blue". I said, "A certain number" of those men would turn a corner. That doesn't imply that "none" of those men would become abusive. In fact, conversely, the way that you're saying it could be read that you're saying "all" of those men would become abusive. I mean, that's what you're literally saying, but I'm sure you don't mean it, because I think there is nobody who would actually believe that.

You can’t put that on the women.

I wasn't putting it on the women. The idea that women can have personal preferences and prefer certain men over others is not "putting it on the women". I think that sort of interpretation is dangerous thinking, the sort of thing a person would say if they saw themselves as an "incel".

Not just systemic, but intentional. People who want to recruit for Nazi groups will hang around and give advice on "incel" forums.

I suspect that women aren't dating conservative men, not because they want to punish them, but because they would personally rather not date a horrible person.

It's a pretty bad spiral. Lonely men develop more extremist views, which makes them less attractive to women, which makes them lonelier, and they get even more extremist views, etc.

Like, if you lined all of the single men up who vote against women's rights, and asked an equal number of women to sacrifice their own happiness to date them, a certain number of those horrible men would turn a corner and start to act like a human. But who is going to give up their own happiness to fix some broken asshole stranger? Very few people.

He wouldn't have any idea where any of his food came from if it didn't say McDonald's on his burger wrapper.

So, basically, we're just living in hell right now.

Destroy the mural. Take down the confederate flags and any other confederate memorabilia. Rename the park to Abraham Lincoln Park, and rename Stone Mountain itself to Emancipation mountain.

It's swell that the park is nice, but taking down the mural isn't enough. We need to spit on its history.

I hadn't heard of Stone Mountain. Here's some details from its Wikipedia page.

Stone Mountain is a quartz monzonite dome monadnock and the site of Stone Mountain Park, 15 miles (24 km) east of Atlanta, Georgia. The park is the most visited tourist site in the state of Georgia.

Stone Mountain, once owned by the Venable Brothers, was purchased by the state of Georgia in 1958 "as a memorial to the Confederacy."

A memorial to the Confederacy is the most visited tourist site in the state of Georgia.....

Stone Mountain Park officially opened on April 14, 1965 – 100 years to the day after Lincoln's assassination

Fuck me, that's trashy even for trash. Celebrating the assassination of President Lincoln.

The park today is owned by the state of Georgia.

Of course it is.

Stone Mountain is well known for not only its geology, but also the enormous rock relief on its north face, the largest bas-relief artwork in the world. The carving, completed in 1972, depicts three Confederate leaders, Jefferson Davis, Robert E. Lee, and Stonewall Jackson.

Imagine spending all that money to commemorate a thing that's 100 years old and only lasted 4 years, just because it's the only way you can think of to be outwardly racist.

That's a hell of a concession.

The entire idea of Mount Rushmore really is contrary to the spirit of America. We have presidents, not kings. It's said that if George Washington wanted to stay in power, he could have easily done so and basically become a king. His contemporary critics were afraid he'd do exactly that.

But Washington knew that we didn't need kings, and he started the tradition of presidents retiring after two terms. I suspect he'd look at Mount Rushmore and be offended at the idea of treating presidents like that.

Anyways, rather than adding somebody new, we should just knock all of the existing portraits off, and admit it was always in poor taste.

This reminds me of the problems people have when selecting sports stars as GOATs. Are you taking them out of context and comparing them to today's best athletes, or are you leaving them in context and seeing how much better they are than the others of their time?

alphabet enthusiasts