If I remember that comment right, wasn't it more about government takedown of central authorities? Nodes, in this case?
If other powers gain control of the node, what happens?
To be fair, I haven't studied how nodes even work, but I suspect some will get large enough to self-destruct the whole point. Like lemmy.world, where they seem to ban and block at a whim, unless it's pedo stuff. That shit stays.
I'm not sure how much tipping helps. Do we have an evidence of it working before for a social network of sorts? I suppose there's twitch subs, superchats, and podcast 2.0 type things that seem to be working, but the traction really isn't there.
Well, and cam whores, but I don't think money people spend on sex translates well to other things.
Let's keep it around. It's nice here and really, who cares if people defederate from us? We are the freespeech place, those places that defederate are not. We don't want to support them any more than they us. Good riddins to bad rubbish, or however that saying goes.
Tinder? That shit has been around forever. My oldest memory of it was myspace. Chick looks like shes pushin' 120 when she's really about 220. I'm sure it's been around since before the Internet.
Yea, I just feel frustrated using Nostr, so I won't be going there for sure.
This was fun while it lasted, but oh well. Mehbe one of these other lemmy instances people have mentioned.
Oh, and I tried to use nostr, I tried to like it, but it's just a mess. Also, it feels more like I'm being talked at rather than discussions. I like discussions, not link spam.
Federation is overrated. It sounds like a good idea, but it's terrible in practice. I miss p2p. I guess we call that "distributed" now.
I know BDFL isn't ideal, but if it's based on FOSS, we're good.
Take basic forum software, if shit goes sour, the community can always spin up a new one and migrate. Sure, you don't get the greater web all mingling in the same place as is the case with federation (kinda) and reddit.
But really, why do we need the rest of the world? We can each have our own corner, sure, the circlejerk effect is real, but it's also fun. If we want other opinions we can go visit those other people in their space. And, of course, there's always the giant monolths of X, Facebook, Reddit, what have you.
No real need to have everyone be part of the same instance, federation, or whatever.
Interesting. It's a shame. I like the concept, but yea, I remember it working pretty poorly.
Yea, it's a shame. I've had fun here. Nostr is a mess in the exact way my brain despises.
Why not just turn the tables, defederate from everyone, and use this like old school forms? Federation is a flawed idea anyway. Censorship free Lemmy Instance! Much easier when you run the site.
OTOH we also can't have a BDFL. Really, the ideal way doesn't exist for us... But in any case, twitter clone is clearly the wrong answer...
We could move on to scuttlebutt, that's some cool shit.
Yea, bad twitter doesn't really seem like it's fits my style. I'm a simple machines kind of guy, reddit and these reddit clones are close enough to scratch that itch.
Twitter though? I've disliked twitter since the day it came out. Microblogging is the worst and I don't understand why there needs to be about 15 different versions of this shit. Guess the world fell in love with it that one year when all the news media told us to use it. Seriously, I remember getting a Twitter account, not understand what good it's for other than status updates, like, when a server goes down. Then suddenly every radio station was blathering about how they can't stop sharing how they're eating a sandwich and how many times they shit so far that day.
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Nice meeting y'all, doubt I'll last on the new platform.
Not really, but I try to make housework as easy as possible.
As for the deplatforming issues, I'd prefer carring my identity to various places.
In the lemmy case it's rough because they ban instances and identities are tied to instances.
If they have to kick me out, that's fine, I'll take my ID an go elsewhere. Same as if I enter a bar, start some fights, and I get banned.I just go to another bar and, if I have a following, they can go to. Not only can they go, they aren't banned from visiting the old bar again.
If people followed identites, rather than identities of an instance, we may have a solution. Which is why I like SSB, and, if I understand how it works correctly, why I wanted to like nostr.
The fediverse almost does this. I'd like to fire up my own pleroma identity, for example, and then vist other instances of the various parts of the fediverse and check them out, but I'm pretty sure I have to host all the data I view, which is not ideal.