latenightnoir

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[–] latenightnoir@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

This is a sound plan, thank you! But I've decided to keep it to myself until things start showing clear signs of getting out of hand. Given my history with romance, I'd honestly rather not even think about it anymore...

As for signs of attraction, I honestly don't even know what would qualify. We were casually intimate with one another, as in she had no issues setting her legs over mine when we were chatting on the couch, I gave her random massages without any subtext, we were very close. Plus I did actively try to keep things in check from my side, so I didn't show anything significant even if I felt like it.

Things were pretty one-sided, anyway, as far as I could tell. I had a crush on her, told her I had feelings for her, she sorta' didn't say anything in either direction (wasn't even really an "I don't know"), and we just moved past it. We did have a relatively tender moment some time after that when we went out once for a casual beer (we did one-on-ones pretty frequently). We got buzzed and I allowed myself to show some affection, like stroking her hand, and I even told her I'd kiss her, but only on the cheek since she had a relationship. She laughed, but pulled in closer. She was very receptive to it, although, again, that was the long and short of it.

Which is why I really don't see a reason to read into anything which happened so far. All that I know is that she saw me as a close friend and enjoyed spending time with me. It's only on my side that things are clearer and predictable.

[–] latenightnoir@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Honestly, I kinda' feel the need to not even deal with this right now, came to this understanding after mulling it over the entire day. Besides the fact that it's barely day 2 of talking again for all intents and purposes, I really do have stuff I need to figure out in and around my life right now. I've become pretty good at compartmentalising these things. If I have a set goal which I can achieve through practical means, that will be the priority and main focus.

If things show signs of getting out of hand, then yes, time to talk about it. But if it's a manageable simmer, I think I'd still rather keep it to myself and let things be as they may be.

[–] latenightnoir@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

You do have a point, but as I see it, we'll be text on a screen for each other for the foreseeable future, in which case it's both much easier to keep my stuff in check while interacting with her, and, as I see it, needlessly destabilising to introduce a potentially unrequited affection to the equation.

Had we more shared in-person contexts, like going to classes together, being co-workers, or even sharing a social group, then yes, I'd most definitely see the need in coming clean after a point. Which is what I did in high-school, where I did tell her I had feelings for her, although she didn't say anything about it and we just moved on. This is why I am hesitant to bring it up again, and this time with the added weight of it coming from a grown-ass man, y'know?

Edit: btw, I forgot to mention in my original, she did say she'll look into popping over to my city for a couple of weeks in the upcoming months.

Thank you so much! God, I hope I won't fuck this up, whichever way it goes...

Oh, I thoroughly enjoy the recording quality, I see the artefacting as another instrument! Love the slightly clipping bass in this one!

Yepyep, and too right, too! Brilliant musician!

Oh, yeah, Third in its entirely was heavily conducted by Geoff Barrow, brilliant album!

[–] latenightnoir@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Thing is, I really don't want to make things awkward between us, y'know? And, so far, that's still a major risk as I see it, because I still have no clear indication that she isn't just reaching out to an old friend, as an old friend and nothing more. If it is just that, I'd feel so bad if I'd potentially sour the mood for her...

[–] latenightnoir@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Well, this sounds mostly like being honest with her, so that I can do!

As for talking about meeting up, she actually said she'll see how her schedule looks in her upcoming months and will try to visit the city I'm in for a couple of weeks.

And, yeah, I really do care for and respect her. A lot. Wouldn't want to hurt her in any way, not even with discomfort. As far as for keeping my heart and hormones in check, they are. One of the advantages of being in my mid thirties, I guess.

Thank you! I'm still very reticent to allow myself to hope that she may have that sort of interest in me, though, I'll be honest...

[–] latenightnoir@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

You're right, if things were to align, I wouldn't even have a problem moving there, to be honest. But that's a big "if."

As for "20 year past crush," that's her to me, but I don't think (or at least know) that I've been one to her. I did tell her I liked her way back when. She had a boyfriend at the time and I did my best to respect that and be her friend, so that was the first and last time I'd brought up feelings for her.

Edit: oh, and she already said she wants to see how her schedule looks for the upcoming few months, to try to squeeze in a couple of weeks in my city. I'd gladly reciprocate, I just don't want to rush things, for either of us, y'know?

To be fair, she really does look like a Bawss! (Pawss? Sorry...)

There's nothing I'd like more, believe me...

I dunno, sib, I'm the kind of person who likes specificity, because I'm capable of A LOT of random interpretation. And I really don't like to assume anything, even feels a bit... controlling, to be honest...

 

This is a weird deal even for me, so I apologise beforehand if anything ends up being unclear in the text.

For a bit of context, she and I used to be high-school class mates and got along very, very well. Used to hang out constantly, became very close, she even became my first significant non-familial, non-platonic affection (dunno what else to call it given when it started developing). Didn't go anywhere due to circumstances at the time (and mostly because I didn't even know what to do with it) but we remained close friends and grew even closer.

In our last year, though, I started dating my first long-term SO, and I drifted away from my best friend (ex was very jealous, so I stupidly reduced all contact with the people I knew would trigger that in her). We then both left for Uni (I moved to the other end of the country, she went abroad) and stopped communicating entirely.

It's been almost two decades since then. We'd met up a decade ago and chatted for a bit when she spent some time over here, but it was very awkward and, honestly, irrelevant as far as where we'd been before that. I was an emotional mess at the time, so basically nothing more than a steaming heap of vaguely antrhropomorphic meat.

Last week I got a connection request from her on my professional profile, completely out of the blue - for added context, my presence on Socials is minimal-to-none, mainly only accounts which don't carry my real name. I accepted it thinking nothing of it, then shortly after she sent me a message. Told me she started having a reocurring dream in which I was always present but wasn't talking to her because I was upset with her, and she got worried that it was the same in real life (I repeat, we haven't talked for pretty much two decades). I told her honestly that I had no reason whatsoever to not want to talk to her and that I wasn't upset with her in any way (never been).

We switched apps, then continued to text semi-regularly. It was awkward at first, lotsa' long pauses between texts (1-2 days) as we've both been busy, but yesterday we both caught a break and spent pretty much the entire day texting. Chatted about a lot of random things, about life, swapped a lot of music (I always loved her taste), basically got back in the old groove.

And that's the problem, apparently. I got very excited, she did, too. Also got flooded with memories of our dynamic from back then, because it seems to not have skipped a beat. Same dry yet goofy sense of humour, same wonderfully complex conversations, same feeling of it being safe for me to be open and honest with her. Conversations with her really are a treat, she always made me want to be better, to think harder and deeper, to be honest with both of us. We'd both remarked how much we've missed talking to each other even though neither of us had thought about it until now.

I woke up today at 4AM with a flutter in my chest and I suddenly realised I'm falling in love with what I'm now "seeing" of her. It's a lot of forgotten familiarity which still applies, apparently, but also the ways in which she's been shaped by these past two decades. We've both gone through a lot and did a lot of growing, but we're still very much the same people we used to be when interacting with each other. Feels kinda' like some old seeds finally managed to hit dirt and take root.

I don't think I want this, though. I see it as yet another hopeless romance on my end, and I'm very tired of these... I don't know how to proceed with the situation, to be honest. If circumstances were different, I'd probably shoot my shot and be done with it (i.e. be honest about my feelings) after letting things settle a bit, but given we're several countries apart with no plans of moving any time soon and relatively established lives, I don't see how anything would even be possible between us. I'm talking hypotheticals here, with the biggest one being that I don't even know what's going on on her end (although my naturally pessimistic tendency is to say "absolutely friggin' nothing, you dumb idiot") - still a bit blindsided by the sudden reappearance, yes, but I simply have to think things through clearly, which is why I'm considering every aspect I can think of. It does feel really nice having her in my life again, though, and I can tell she feels the same way about it. Plus she literally told me that.

To clarify, I'm not jumping to any conclusions, I'm not daydeaming about it, I'm actually in Hypervigilant Problem Solving Mode, because I really don't want to hurt myself with things like this anymore. This is a reaction related strictly to what I feel right here and now.

I ask and thank you for any possible thoughts, advice, anything you have for this.

P.S.: as another potentially relevant variable, unfortunately, I get over Love™ slowly, and it's usually a difficult process for me. I tend to pour all of my heart into the people I love (I'm passionate, this is how I feel it, not complaning or looking to change it), so it's hard to recover even after brief/light episodes. I usually need to play things tactically, and the only thing which has worked so far has been cutting all contact.

P.P.S.: I wasn't even looking for romance, ffs... I just want to get my life in order...

 

Bonus: the original version (the whole album's so damned good...)

 

Formerly known as Thee Oh Sees.

 

This is THE UT2004 Capture The Flag song for me.

 

Bandcamp: 👈

 

They're also entirely on Bandcamp!

My personal recs are The Early Years and Holding Hands With Jamie.

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