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That's okay. There are many people who only know their food as a bite-sized anonymous mass from the supermarket. who think that cows just give milk all the time. They don't know how piglets are bred. That you can walk into any barn and see unfathomable suffering in every corner. Who have never heard of forceful impregnation, confinement crates, premature separation, tail docking, mulesing, torture breeding, teeth clipping, CO2 chambers, castration, steroid growth, veal crates, tethering, weaning rings, induced moulting, sheep dipping... and we haven't even started on the illegal cruelties.

In this state of blissful ignorance, you might regard someone who associates eating a steak with rape as crazy.

I used to be like this too. And to be honest, there are times when I wish I could return to it and just dismiss vegans with a downvote as exaggerating and annoying.

Verdammt. McRib hatte ich in meiner Jugend jedes Mal bestellt, wenn es dort hin ging. Ich habe gerade einen längst vergessenen Geschmack im Mund.

Auf der anderen Seite gehören diese ganzen meatgrinder Fast Food Ketten boykottiert und abgefackelt. Muss. Stark. Bleiben.

I would trip over your description "a vegan restaurant that serves a bit of meat" as well, because it doesn't make sense to call it "vegan" then.

I can understand why someone would want to prevent the term "vegan" from being watered down.

If a supposedly vegan restaurant suddenly offers non-vegan dishes, this carries more weight for vegans than if some other restaurant tinkers with its menu.

You may have already advertised the "vegan" restaurant in good faith and now they're stabbing you in the back.

The change also shows that the owners themselves are not vegan. And then, of course, you question everything: were the ingredients ever properly screened? What about the wine? Were the chairs covered in leather? Were the candles made from beeswax?

Just imagine a "vegan" restaurant that has an advertising banner for the elephant circus hanging on the door. Outrage would be justified. But they even put fucking meat on the menu.

"Vegan" is a statement. People should not tag it on their business if they're merely coicidentally plant-based and don't actually care for animal rights.

It would certainly have been more conciliatory for everyone if the mods had made it clear in the thread why they were upset about the comments. On the other hand, I can also understand if they were not in the mood for the hundredth discussion and would rather take the "easier" route and delete the comment. But I also think it's excessive to justify it with "fake vegan". You're vegan if you leave your hands off the animals. Semantic considerations are not necessary.

That being said, it's wonderful that you're both vegan and that the topic is obviously important to you. Don't let a loose string on the jointly pulled rope divide you. We have more important battles to fight.

Vegan btw

Why is it an insane comparison?

Cows, pigs, sheeps, etc. are raped (no consent) and sexually assaulted (against their will) for dairy, meat, wool...

20.000 Tote weniger durch Mehrwertsteueränderung

Genau mein Motto: Zum Fest der Liebe kriegt der Gockel Hiebe.

Jetzt fehlt nur noch mein Artikel in einer großen deutschen Tageszeitung, in der ich andere zum gelegentlichen Fleischkonsum animiere. Dann kann ich mich endlich auch Vegetarier nennen 🎖

wollte die Deaktivierung auch gar nicht infrage stellen. Das macht schon Sinn, da nicht viele diese Beurteilung treffen können und man evtl. vor Ort sein muss.

Schade, das erst jetzt zu sehen. Da ich regelmäßig HappyCow nutze (leider nicht open source), hätte ich das immer gleich mitmachen können.

Offtopic:

veganen StreetComplete-Quest

dank deinem HLI lernte ich heute, dass es diese Quest gibt. Sie ist standardmäßig deaktiviert, deshalb sah ich sie nie auf der Karte.

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Thanks! My cool new thing is to visit places, order items I don't know and not care what I'm served. This way pork chops 🍗 and being vegan go hand in hand 🤝

Sir, this is a ~~Wendy's~~ Taco Bell

Familienvater Adrian Klaric will es genau wissen: "Bis zu welchem Tag darf ich in meinem Kamin noch Holz anfeuern?"

ist auch ein Offenbarungseid, sinnbildlich für den Stand unserer Moral.

-> Das ist schlecht für Klima, Umwelt und Mitmenschen. Zum Glück gibt es folgende Maßnahmen, die Abhilfe schaffen...

-> Ja, aber ich mach's noch bis es verboten ist.