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[–] jet@hackertalks.com 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What kind of civics literacy test would you recommend I use to determine if I should vote?

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I really jacksoned that up

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 0 points 1 week ago

evidence children are allowed to use crypto? They can use phones and tablets, the UI on crypto is just an app. Therefore they can use crypto.

Even seen a kid with a few coins buy candy? Ever see a kid use a tap to pay?

I'm not sure where your ideas of "allowed" are coming from, but in reality everybody participates in the economy however its transacted.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah I worked with a energy trader, and you have to be really well positioned to do this, but when you can its like magic free money. Basically getting paid for infrastructure risk

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 1 points 1 week ago

Not my logic, I was explaining what the phrase meant, which was your question.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

where only adults can have accounts (18 or 21 years old or whatever), then 5 year olds won’t even have the right to go buy a simple candy bar, and high school students won’t have any financial experience to even get started in life after they graduate.

That's like saying only adults are allowed to use money. In a world with digital money, of course children will have to be able to use digital money.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 0 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Producing electricity is difficult, turning on and off generators is slow, if demand dips rapidly then that energy has to go SOMEWHERE. Sometimes this is called load shedding.

So if you have a low priority bitcoin farm that can consume lots of load - you can use it to keep the generation / demand curve flat. This makes it easier to turn off and on generators. This also creates a greater economic incentive to make more stable green energy since there is consistent demand.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] jet@hackertalks.com 6 points 1 week ago

It creates demand for energy, but it doesn't actually produce anything. It's just proof of work math problems.

I don't think it's a net positive by itself. Maybe if you combine it with something else

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 3 points 1 week ago

The big secret is hormones, don't interfere with your hormones and the body will self regulate body composition to optimal (lose weight if your obese).

[Paper] The Carbohydrate-Insulin Model of Obesity - Beyond “Calories In, Calories Out” - 2018

TLDR - Eating sugar and carbohydrates forces blood glucose levels to rise (within minutes), elevated blood glucose forces insulin to rise (to reduce blood glucose), elevated insulin forces the body to go into anabolic (gain weight) state. Basically you can't lose any fat while your insulin is high, so every time someone eats a bunch of sugar or carbohydrates with a meal/snack they are putting a 2-4 hour pause on any fat loss.

Also the laws of thermodynamics your using in your It's simple CICO statement require a closed system without mass transfers. Humans are open systems, eating, pooping, breathing, peeing, drinking... All the time. So yes CICO is technically correct, it's not clinically helpful to most people.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 3 points 1 week ago

box of salt

That is some top shelf foresight!

I’m an Eagle Scout

Be Prepared!

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 1 points 1 week ago

Good observation - the model and the tools don't match each other

 

Roger Seheult, MD of MedCram explores new data comparing the effects of hot tub, traditional sauna, and infrared sauna.

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This MedCram lecture explores a scientific study comparing the physiological effects of three passive heat therapy modalities: hot water immersion (HWI, akin to hot tubs), traditional saunas, and far infrared (FIR) saunas. The focus is on their ability to raise core body temperature and the downstream impacts on cardiovascular function and immune responses, specifically cytokine changes. The study involved 20 young, healthy participants who each underwent all three modalities in random order, allowing for within-subject comparisons.

The key finding is that hot water immersion at 40.5°C (104.9°F) for 45 minutes produced the greatest increase in core body temperature—exceeding 38°C, the threshold known to stimulate beneficial immune enzymes and interferon-related pathways. Traditional saunas elevated core temperature less effectively, and far infrared saunas showed the smallest increases. Cardiovascular parameters such as heart rate, cardiac output, and systemic vascular resistance aligned with these temperature changes: hot water immersion induced the greatest cardiovascular strain, including vasodilation and increased cardiac output.

Despite these differences in temperature and cardiovascular response, the study did not find statistically significant changes in inflammatory cytokines (IL-1, IL-6, TNF-alpha) or immune cell subsets between modalities, except for a modest increase in IL-6 following hot water immersion. The lecture emphasizes that while infrared saunas did not substantially raise core temperature in this study, they may offer other health benefits related to mitochondrial function and oxidative stress, which were not measured here.

The study's limitations include its focus on young, healthy, recreationally active individuals and its acute rather than chronic exposure design. The speaker highlights the need for further research on different populations, optimal dosing, and the real-world application of heat therapies as adjuncts or alternatives to exercise, especially for those unable to engage in physical activity. Also noted is the common discrepancy between sauna set temperatures and actual measured temperatures, underscoring the importance of independent verification for users.

Overall, the lecture concludes that hot water immersion delivers the most potent physiological heat stimulus among the three modalities studied, potentially offering significant cardiovascular and immunological benefits with repeated exposure. However, traditional and infrared saunas remain valuable for their unique effects and practicality, and more research is needed to optimize their use in clinical and wellness settings.

Highlights

  • 🔥 Hot water immersion raises core body temperature more effectively than traditional or infrared saunas.
  • ❤️ Hot water immersion induces the greatest cardiovascular strain including increased heart rate and cardiac output.
  • 🌡️ Traditional saunas moderately increase core temperature but less than hot tubs; infrared saunas have the least effect on core temperature.
  • 🧬 Cytokine responses (IL-1, IL-6, TNF-alpha) showed minimal changes, with only IL-6 increasing modestly after hot water immersion.
  • 🌍 Sauna set temperatures often overestimate actual heat; independent temperature measurement is recommended.
  • ⚡ Infrared saunas may benefit mitochondria and oxidative stress, though these effects were not studied here.
  • 📊 Further research is needed to explore chronic effects and responses in diverse, especially clinical, populations.

Key Insights

  • 🔥 Core Body Temperature Elevation is Crucial: The study confirms that core temperature must rise above approximately 38°C to activate heat-sensitive enzymes and immune pathways, including interferon signaling. Hot water immersion achieves this threshold reliably, making it the most potent modality for heat-induced physiological changes among those tested. This suggests that for immune modulation via heat, hot tubs may be superior to saunas.

  • ❤️ Cardiovascular Responses Reflect Thermal Stress: The cardiovascular system responds dynamically to heat stress through vasodilation, increased heart rate, and elevated cardiac output to dissipate heat. Hot water immersion caused the most pronounced cardiovascular strain, indicating its potential for cardiovascular conditioning and vascular health benefits. This aligns with prior findings that repeated heat exposure can improve endothelial function and reduce arterial stiffness.

  • 🌡️ Discrepancy Between Sauna Set and Actual Temperatures: A notable finding is that commercial sauna units often do not reach their set temperatures. Traditional saunas measured about 66°C (150°F) instead of the set 78°C (172°F); infrared saunas were even cooler than their settings. This discrepancy could significantly affect therapeutic outcomes and user experience, highlighting the need for reliable temperature monitoring to ensure efficacy and safety.

  • 🧬 Limited Acute Immune Cytokine Changes: Despite the thermal and cardiovascular stress, acute cytokine changes were minimal except for IL-6 after hot water immersion. This suggests that single heat exposures may not be sufficient to induce robust inflammatory or immune cell shifts, or that the markers measured are not the primary mediators of heat therapy benefits. Chronic exposure studies may reveal more pronounced immunomodulatory effects.

  • Infrared Sauna Benefits May Lie Beyond Temperature: The study underscores that infrared saunas’ therapeutic effects may stem from non-thermal mechanisms such as mitochondrial bioenergetics, oxidative stress reduction, and ATP production enhancement. These benefits would not necessarily correlate with core temperature increases, explaining why infrared saunas showed the least thermal impact yet remain popular for health and wellness.

  • 🌍 Accessibility and Practical Considerations Matter: Saunas can be costlier and less accessible than hot water immersion, which could influence patient adherence and feasibility. This socioeconomic aspect is critical when considering heat therapy as an adjunct or alternative to exercise, particularly for populations unable to engage in physical activity. The study’s call for tailored research in diverse populations is important for equitable healthcare application.

  • 📊 Need for Further Research on Dose, Duration, and Populations: The optimal “dose” of heat exposure—intensity, duration, frequency—to achieve health benefits remains unclear. This study’s acute exposure design in young healthy adults limits generalizability. Future studies should investigate chronic effects, vulnerable populations (e.g., elderly, cardiovascular patients), and explore whether heat modalities can substitute or complement exercise in disease prevention and management.

Conclusion

This comprehensive study and lecture provide valuable insights into the physiological and immunological effects of different passive heat therapies. Hot water immersion emerges as the most effective method for raising core body temperature and inducing cardiovascular strain, with potential downstream health benefits. Traditional and infrared saunas, while less potent in thermal effects, may offer unique benefits and remain relevant options. The findings highlight the importance of accurate temperature measurement and tailored application of heat therapies, while emphasizing the need for further research to unlock their full clinical potential.

 

Hangry - Or Anger when Hungry - Isn't normal.

It's a sign of insulin resistance.

Small hypoglycemic dips can cans irritability, cortisol increases, and "hangry-episodes". hence the commercial tag line "You're not you when your hungry".

There are two major causes of insulin resistence

  • Persistently elevated glucose levels

i.e. Eating carbohydrate rich meals, and carbohydrate meals throughout the day.

  • Industrial Oil consumption / Seed Oils / Vegetable Oils

A much cheaper fat source only available in modern day these oils have high levels of Linoleic Acid which interferes with cell mitochondria reducing energy production in cells as well as creating inflammation. Sadly LA can be incorporated into stored fat cells so even between meals the fat the body would normally burn is causing inflammation, and elevated glucose levels.

There are more niche causes, but they are not very common.

What can you do to prevent Hangry episodes?

Improve your metabolic health

  • avoid industrial oils in meals when you can (every meal counts).
  • reduce fructose consumption (no sweet drinks)
  • reduce sugar consumption
  • avoid empty carbohydrates
  • Buy your food from the edges of the grocery store
  • Only buy single ingredient foods (whole foods)
  • Meal prep and cook at home for better control

You don't have to go full keto, any small improvement is a victory.

 

I was watching two people buy ice cream using their phones today. It occurs that they can only do that because the central bank that controls their phone apps/bank account hasn't frozen their favors.

If money represents personal favors between two people, introducing a third party into money means someone else can show you disfavor (heh)

Fiat money is "controlled" centrally, but not each transaction.

Digital Fiat money is both "controlled" centrally, but each transaction must be approved by a third party (outside of some fringe distributed ledgers).

Like if you were a human rights reporter in a war torn country, and you tried to buy ice cream... maybe you couldn't anymore, all your favors have been expired.

Full Disclosure - I've been influenced by this great book https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debt:_The_First_5,000_Years

I had this thought in a swimming pool, and not a shower, but a pool is shower adjacent so I thought this might count.

 

TLDW: Fiber is not essential for health.

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In this comprehensive discussion on gut health and low-carbohydrate diets, the speaker challenges common nutritional beliefs, emphasizing that dietary fiber is not essential for a healthy diet. The presentation highlights that certain low-carb foods rich in fiber and FODMAPs (fermentable carbohydrates) can cause bloating, constipation, and other gut symptoms. The speaker critically reviews scientific evidence around fiber’s role in constipation and finds that, contrary to popular belief, increasing fiber intake may worsen constipation and bloating. In contrast, low- or zero-fiber diets have shown significant improvements in bowel symptoms.

The talk explains the physiological basis of constipation and why fiber’s function of increasing stool bulk might not aid stool passage, as larger stools can be harder to expel. It also clarifies that fiber does not hydrate stools, debunking another common assumption. The fermentation of fiber by gut bacteria produces short-chain fatty acids (SCFAs) and gases, which can cause discomfort.

The speaker further explores FODMAPs, a group of poorly absorbed short-chain carbohydrates that cause osmotic effects and gas production, contributing to irritable bowel syndrome (IBS) symptoms like bloating, diarrhea, and constipation. Many low-carb foods, including broccoli and nuts, contain FODMAPs, which explains why some people on low-carb diets experience digestive issues.

The role of gut microbiota is examined, particularly the relationship between bacterial phyla (Firmicutes and Bacteroidetes) and obesity. While changes in gut bacteria are associated with weight loss or gain, the speaker clarifies that diet-induced changes in microbiota are likely a consequence, not a cause, of weight changes. The famous 2006 mouse study showing that microbiota transplants can affect weight is discussed, but limitations are pointed out.

Finally, the talk touches on how modern dietary components, such as trehalose (a sugar used in processed foods), can alter gut bacteria and lead to serious infections, underscoring that what we eat impacts our microbiome, sometimes negatively.

The concluding message is clear: fiber is not indispensable for gut health, some low-carb foods high in fiber or FODMAPs can cause gut discomfort, and the idea of manipulating gut bacteria to lose weight remains scientifically unsupported.

Highlights

  • 🌾 Fiber is not essential for a healthy diet and may worsen constipation and bloating.
  • 🥦 Certain low-carb foods rich in fiber or FODMAPs can cause gut symptoms like bloating and constipation.
  • 💨 Fermentation of fiber by gut bacteria produces gases causing discomfort, not hydration of stool.
  • 🦠 Gut microbiota changes with diet but are more likely effects, not causes, of weight loss or gain.
  • 🍞 FODMAPs, found in many foods including some low-carb ones, contribute significantly to IBS symptoms.
  • 🐁 Microbiota transplant studies in germ-free mice have limitations and do not directly translate to humans.
  • 🍦 Modern food additives like trehalose can negatively impact gut bacteria, leading to serious health issues.

Key Insights

  • 🌱 Fiber’s Role in Constipation Is Overstated: Despite widespread recommendations, there is no strong randomized controlled trial evidence supporting fiber’s efficacy to relieve constipation symptoms. In fact, clinical observations show that a zero-fiber diet can completely alleviate constipation symptoms in many patients, challenging the dogma that fiber is always beneficial. This insight demands a re-evaluation of fiber’s role in managing bowel health, especially in those with chronic constipation.

  • 💨 Gas Production from Fiber Fermentation Affects Gut Comfort: Soluble fibers ferment in the colon, producing short-chain fatty acids (SCFAs) and gases such as hydrogen. This fermentation can cause bloating and abdominal pain, especially when excessive fiber is consumed. Insoluble fibers, while increasing stool bulk, do not hydrate stools or ease passage, often exacerbating symptoms by increasing rectal distension. Therefore, fiber's mechanical and fermentative effects on the gut can be counterproductive for individuals prone to bloating or IBS-like symptoms.

  • 🥦 FODMAPs and Low-Carb Diets: Many people following low-carb diets inadvertently consume significant amounts of FODMAPs from vegetables like broccoli and nuts, which can ferment and attract water in the gut, causing diarrhea or constipation. Recognizing FODMAP content in low-carb foods is vital for managing digestive symptoms, illustrating that low-carb does not automatically mean low-fermentable carbohydrate intake. This subtlety is critical for dietary adjustments in sensitive individuals.

  • 🦠 Microbiome Changes Are a Consequence, Not a Cause, of Weight Loss: Although gut microbiota composition differs between obese and lean individuals (e.g., higher Firmicutes in obesity, higher Bacteroidetes in leanness), these changes follow dietary shifts rather than drive weight changes. The 2006 mouse microbiota transplant study, often cited to support causality, applies to germ-free mice without existing microbiota, a condition not comparable to humans. Thus, diet modification remains the primary tool for weight management, with microbiome changes as secondary phenomena.

  • 🔬 Short-Chain Fatty Acids (SCFAs) and Colon Health: SCFAs produced by bacterial fermentation are not solely beneficial. While they provide energy to colonocytes and may support gut integrity, their production is not unique to fiber fermentation. Animal-based diets rich in protein also generate SCFAs. Moreover, circulating ketones, such as those produced in ketogenic diets, may be more effective for colon health than SCFAs, indicating alternative metabolic pathways support colonocyte function beyond fiber intake.

  • 🍭 Artificial Sweeteners and Gut Health: Polyols, sugar alcohols commonly used in low-carb bars and snacks, poorly absorbed in the intestine, can cause osmotic diarrhea and gas, leading to discomfort. This explains why some individuals on low-carb diets experience diarrhea after consuming products like Atkins bars. Awareness of these additives is essential for managing digestive health in low-carb dietary contexts.

  • ⚠️ Dietary Components Can Adversely Affect Microbiota: The example of trehalose, a sugar increasingly used in processed foods, illustrates how novel food additives can promote the growth of harmful bacteria such as Clostridium difficile, leading to serious infections. This highlights the dynamic and sometimes detrimental impact of modern diets on gut microbiota, underscoring the importance of understanding how food additives influence gut health beyond macronutrient content.

Conclusion

This talk fundamentally challenges entrenched nutritional wisdom, particularly the universal promotion of dietary fiber for gut health. It provides evidence that high fiber intake, especially insoluble fiber, can worsen constipation and bloating, and that zero-fiber diets can effectively resolve these symptoms. It also clarifies the role of fermentable carbohydrates (FODMAPs) in digestive discomfort, even within low-carb diets, and cautions against simplistic views about the gut microbiome’s causal role in obesity. The nuanced examination of microbiota, SCFAs, and dietary additives like trehalose offers a more critical understanding of how diet shapes gut health. Ultimately, the speaker calls for a more evidence-based view of fiber and microbiota manipulation, advocating awareness of individual responses to fiber and fermentable carbohydrates, especially in low-carb dietary frameworks.

 

A shop of curiosities and a curious shop keeper... a steven king movie.

I really enjoyed it, the pacing, the tension was just right.

 

Why This Could Happen When You Start Carnivore Are you experiencing joint pain, rashes, fatigue, or strange symptoms after starting the carnivore diet? You might be dealing with oxalate dumping—a hidden detox process that most people have never heard of.

In this video, Dr. Tony Hampton breaks down:

  • What oxalates are and how they build up in the body
  • What “dumping” really means and why it happens when you stop eating plants
  • The symptoms to watch for—and how to know it’s not just “the meat”
  • Step-by-step strategies to reduce oxalate dumping symptoms
  • What to eat and avoid during this detox phase

Whether you're new to carnivore, coming from a plant-based diet, or just want to understand what’s happening inside your body, this video gives you the science, solutions, and encouragement to keep going.

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The video, presented by Dr. Tony Hampton, addresses a common concern among people who have recently started the carnivore diet or other low-carb regimens like keto: feeling worse instead of better. Symptoms such as joint pain, rashes, fatigue, cloudy urine, and other strange bodily sensations may actually be due to a process called oxalate dumping rather than the diet itself. Oxalates are natural defense compounds found in many plant foods like spinach, almonds, beets, and sweet potatoes. When consumed in large quantities over time, oxalates accumulate in the body’s tissues, joints, kidneys, and skin, often without immediate symptoms. However, when someone suddenly cuts these oxalate-rich foods out of their diet, the body begins to detoxify and release stored oxalates—a process known as oxalate dumping. This can cause uncomfortable and confusing symptoms that mimic illness or diet intolerance.

Dr. Hampton explains that oxalate dumping can take days, weeks, or even months to begin after dietary changes. People who previously consumed high-oxalate diets or had gut issues like leaky gut, IBS, or SIBO are especially prone to this. There may also be genetic factors affecting oxalate excretion. To manage oxalate dumping, Dr. Hampton advises not to panic or quit the diet but to ease the transition by tapering off oxalate-rich foods gradually rather than abruptly. Hydration, mineral intake (especially calcium and magnesium), electrolyte balance, gut and liver support, and avoiding high doses of vitamin C are all critical strategies to support detoxification and reduce symptoms. He recommends carnivore-friendly foods rich in natural calcium and nutrients, such as beef, lamb, pork, eggs, sardines with bones, and bone broth.

Oxalate dumping is difficult to diagnose with standard medical tests and is primarily identified through symptom patterns correlated with dietary changes. Dr. Hampton reassures viewers that feeling worse initially is a sign of the body beginning to heal and detoxify, not a failure of the diet. He encourages patience, education, and support, emphasizing that this phase is temporary and that perseverance will lead to breakthroughs in health.

Highlights

  • 🥩 Oxalate dumping occurs when the body releases stored oxalates after cutting out high-oxalate plant foods.
  • 🌿 Oxalates are natural compounds in many plants used as defense mechanisms against being eaten.
  • ⚠️ Symptoms of oxalate dumping include joint pain, rashes, fatigue, cloudy urine, and headaches.
  • 🐄 Gradually tapering off oxalate-rich foods helps reduce the severity of dumping symptoms.
  • 💧 Staying hydrated and maintaining mineral balance, especially calcium and magnesium, supports oxalate detox.
  • 🔍 Oxalate dumping is mostly diagnosed through clinical history and symptom patterns, not routine lab tests.
  • 💪 Feeling worse temporarily is a sign of healing, not a reason to quit the carnivore or keto diet.

Key Insights

  • 🧬 Oxalates as a Plant Defense Mechanism: Oxalates serve as a natural defense for plants, discouraging animals from consuming them by forming sharp crystals that can irritate or harm tissues. This evolutionary adaptation explains why many nutritious plants contain these compounds and why they can accumulate harmfully in humans who consume them regularly over time. Understanding this biological role helps contextualize why oxalate accumulation occurs and why sudden removal of these foods triggers detox symptoms.

  • 🔄 Oxalate Dumping as a Detoxification Process: The concept of oxalate dumping reframes adverse symptoms experienced on diets like carnivore or keto as a natural healing process. When the intake of oxalates stops, the body sequestered oxalates begin to mobilize and exit through urine and tissues. This process can produce symptoms that mimic illness or diet intolerance, causing confusion and leading some to abandon beneficial diets prematurely. Recognizing oxalate dumping prevents misattribution of symptoms and promotes adherence.

  • 🕰️ Variable Onset and Duration of Symptoms: Oxalate dumping symptoms don’t always appear immediately after dietary change; they can arise days, weeks, or months later. This delayed and fluctuating timing adds complexity to diagnosis and management. Symptoms are often transient, migratory, and cyclical, reflecting the dynamic nature of oxalate mobilization. Patients and clinicians should maintain awareness of this pattern to avoid misdiagnosis.

  • 👥 Risk Factors Increase Oxalate Load: Diets high in spinach, nuts, sweet potatoes, and other oxalate-rich foods, combined with gut issues such as leaky gut, IBS, or SIBO, increase oxalate absorption and storage. Additionally, genetic differences in oxalate transport proteins can impair excretion. This multifactorial risk profile explains why some individuals experience severe symptoms while others do not, underscoring the need for personalized dietary transitions.

  • 🛠️ Practical Strategies Mitigate Symptoms: Gradual dietary tapering rather than abrupt elimination of oxalates lessens the intensity of dumping symptoms by allowing the body to detoxify more gently. Adequate hydration supports renal excretion of oxalates, while calcium and magnesium bind oxalates in the gut to prevent reabsorption. Supporting gut and liver health through nutrient-dense foods and supplements facilitates detox pathways. Avoiding high-dose vitamin C is crucial because excess vitamin C converts to oxalates.

  • 🔬 Challenges in Medical Diagnosis: Oxalate dumping is primarily a clinical diagnosis based on patient history and symptom chronology rather than standard laboratory tests. While oxalate crystals may be visible under a microscope in urine, this is rarely assessed clinically. Awareness among healthcare professionals remains low, leading to potential misdiagnosis or unnecessary investigations.

  • 🌟 Healing Is a Process, Not an Event: Dr. Hampton’s message emphasizes that worsening symptoms during dietary transitions are not failures but signs of the body’s innate ability to heal and clear accumulated toxins. This perspective encourages patience, reduces fear, and builds resilience during challenging phases. Support, education, and gradual dietary adjustments empower individuals to continue their health journeys without losing hope.

This comprehensive understanding of oxalate dumping offers valuable guidance not only for those adopting carnivore or keto diets but for anyone transitioning away from high-oxalate plant-based eating patterns. By recognizing and managing oxalate dumping, individuals can avoid unnecessary distress, optimize detoxification, and ultimately achieve improved health outcomes.

 

Adhering to the ketogenic diet can reduce or stop seizures, even when other treatments fail, via mechanism(s) distinct from other available therapies. These results have led to interest in the diet for treating conditions such as Alzheimer’s disease, depression and schizophrenia. Evidence points to the neuromodulator adenosine as a key mechanism underlying therapeutic benefits of a ketogenic diet. Adenosine represents a unique and direct link among cell energy, neuronal activity, and gene expression, and adenosine receptors form functional heteromers with dopamine receptors. The importance of the dopaminergic system is established in addiction, as are the challenges of modulating the dopamine system directly. A mediator that could antagonize dopamine’s effects would be useful, and adenosine is such a mediator due to its function and location. Studies report that the ketogenic diet improves cognition, sociability, and perseverative behaviors, and might improve depression. Many of the translational opportunities based on the ketogenic diet/adenosine link have come to the fore, including addiction, autism spectrum disorder, painful conditions, and a range of hyperdopaminergic disorders.

Full Paper At: https://doi.org/10.3389/fnut.2025.1492306

 

Can adenosine and a ketogenic diet help treat addiction? New research explores the powerful role of adenosine, dopamine, and metabolic health in addiction, and how dietary strategies could support recovery.

In this interview, Dr. Bret Scher speaks with Dr. Susan Masino, a neuroscience and psychology professor at Trinity College, about her groundbreaking work on adenosine and its potential to regulate addiction through metabolic pathways. They dive into:

  • The dopamine-addiction connection
  • The role of adenosine in addiction and how it balances dopamine activity
  • The role of ketogenic diets in boosting adenosine
  • Other mechanisms supporting keto for treating addiction
  • Why food, sugar, and even phone addiction may share common roots
  • How metabolic therapies could support recovery from addiction, depression, and more

Dr. Masino also shares insights on how habits, stress, inflammation, and neuroplasticity all intersect with metabolic health—and what that means for mental health and addiction treatment going forward.

Resources Mentioned: Ketogenic diet, adenosine, and dopamine in addiction and psychiatry - frontiersin.org/journals/nutrition/articles/10.3389/fnut.2025.1492306/full

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The video features an in-depth interview with Dr. Susan Msino, a distinguished professor specializing in applied sciences, neuroscience, and psychology at Trinity College. The conversation explores the intriguing connections between ketogenic diets, adenosine, dopamine, and addiction. Dr. Msino outlines how diet, particularly ketogenic and low-carb diets, may influence addiction behaviors by modulating brain chemistry, specifically through adenosine’s interaction with dopamine. Dopamine, a neurotransmitter linked to reward and habit formation, plays a central role in addiction, but adenosine acts as a natural brake on dopamine activity. This interaction suggests that enhancing adenosine signaling via ketogenic diets could potentially mitigate addictive behaviors and improve metabolic health.

Dr. Msino elaborates on adenosine’s multifaceted role in the brain and body, highlighting its neuroprotective properties, ability to promote sleep, relieve pain, and regulate neuronal metabolism and epigenetics. She explains how adenosine’s receptor activity counterbalances dopamine spikes that lead to addictive cravings. The ketogenic diet is proposed to increase ATP (adenosine triphosphate) production, which is a precursor to adenosine, thereby potentially boosting adenosine’s beneficial effects. This metabolic shift could help reduce addiction risks, improve sleep, and address psychiatric comorbidities such as depression and bipolar disorder.

Although current research is primarily preclinical, including rodent studies on cocaine addiction, anecdotal human reports suggest ketogenic diets may help resolve addictions to substances like cocaine and alcohol. Dr. Msino emphasizes the need for more robust clinical research and collaborative efforts to fully understand and harness this potential. She also touches on the broader implications for food addiction, stress-induced relapse, metabolic psychiatry, and neurological disorders such as epilepsy and autism, where adenosine and metabolic therapies like ketogenic diets may offer therapeutic benefits.

Finally, the discussion includes broader evolutionary and physiological perspectives on adenosine as a stress-response molecule that helps brains adapt and learn, as well as potential non-dietary interventions such as exercise and hot yoga to stimulate adenosine. Dr. Msino calls for increased research and funding to explore adenosine’s unique role in modulating brain function, addiction, and metabolic health.

Highlights

  • 🧠 Dopamine drives addictive behaviors but adenosine acts as a natural brake on dopamine’s effects.
  • 🥑 Ketogenic diets may increase adenosine by boosting mitochondrial ATP production, influencing addiction pathways.
  • 🔬 Current research is mostly preclinical but promising anecdotal evidence exists for ketogenic diets reducing cocaine and alcohol addiction.
  • 😴 Adenosine promotes sleep and neuroprotection, linking metabolic health with mental health and addiction recovery.
  • 🔄 Addiction, sleep disorders, depression, and metabolic dysfunction often co-occur and may be addressed simultaneously through metabolic therapies.
  • 💡 Adenosine also plays a role in epilepsy control and potentially other neurological and psychiatric disorders.
  • 🤝 More collaborative research and funding are needed to explore adenosine’s full therapeutic potential in addiction and brain health.

Key Insights

  • 🧬 Adenosine-Dopamine Interaction as a Therapeutic Target: Adenosine receptors, particularly the A1 subtype, form heteromers with dopamine receptors, creating a balancing mechanism where increased adenosine activity suppresses dopamine signaling. This molecular interaction can blunt the excessive dopamine surges that underlie addictive behaviors, suggesting that therapies enhancing adenosine could reduce addiction severity and relapse risk. This insight opens new avenues for addiction treatment beyond traditional pharmacotherapy.

  • 🥑 Metabolic Health and Addiction Are Deeply Linked: Ketogenic diets enhance mitochondrial function and raise ATP levels, which subsequently increase extracellular adenosine concentrations. This metabolic shift not only supports brain energy demands but also modulates neurotransmitter systems related to addiction and mood regulation. Addressing addiction through metabolic interventions like ketogenic diets could therefore target root causes rather than just symptoms, providing a holistic approach to recovery.

  • 🧠 Adenosine’s Multifunctional Role in Brain Health: Beyond addiction, adenosine acts as a neuroprotective agent during metabolic stress, a sleep promoter, and a modulator of epigenetic changes. Its role as a “pan-disease molecule” makes it a promising target for various neurological and psychiatric disorders, including epilepsy, depression, Huntington’s disease, and autism. Enhancing adenosine signaling may confer broad brain health benefits, especially when combined with metabolic therapies.

  • 🔄 Stress and Hypoglycemia as Addiction Relapse Triggers: Stress-induced relapse is a major challenge in addiction treatment, and both adenosine signaling and glucose metabolism influence stress responses. Ketogenic diets may stabilize blood sugar levels and reduce stress-related triggers for relapse by modulating adenosine pathways. This dual mechanism highlights the importance of metabolic stability in maintaining long-term sobriety and mental health.

  • 🍽️ Translatability to Food and Behavioral Addictions: The mechanisms involving dopamine and adenosine in substance addiction likely extend to non-substance addictions such as food, sugar, and behavioral addictions (e.g., cell phone use, gambling). Since these addictions share dopaminergic reward pathways, metabolic interventions that regulate adenosine could potentially help manage compulsive behaviors across diverse addiction types.

  • 🧪 Need for Human Clinical Trials and Interdisciplinary Research: Most existing data on adenosine and ketogenic diet effects on addiction come from animal studies or anecdotal reports. Dr. Msino emphasizes the necessity of well-designed human clinical trials to confirm efficacy and mechanisms. Collaborative efforts among neuroscientists, psychiatrists, nutritionists, and metabolic researchers are critical to advancing this field and creating effective metabolic psychiatry treatments.

  • 🏋️ Non-Dietary Ways to Modulate Adenosine: Besides ketogenic diets, physiological interventions such as exercise, hot yoga, acupuncture, and brain stimulation therapies may elevate adenosine levels and improve brain plasticity. These options offer complementary or alternative routes to harness adenosine’s benefits for addiction, mental health, and neuroprotection, broadening therapeutic possibilities.

Conclusion

This interview underscores a groundbreaking paradigm where metabolic therapies, especially ketogenic diets, could revolutionize addiction treatment by modulating adenosine and dopamine pathways. Adenosine’s unique role as a neuroprotective, sleep-promoting, and epigenetic-regulating molecule positions it at the intersection of brain metabolism and addiction neuroscience. While preliminary evidence is promising, especially from animal studies and anecdotal human reports, rigorous clinical research is essential to validate these findings and translate them into practice. The integration of metabolic health into psychiatry could simultaneously address addiction, mental illness, and neurological disorders, offering hope for more effective, multifaceted treatments.

 

I was doing so good, 10 months of clean pure carnivore. I had amazing results (45kg lost). I didn't have any cravings.

I feel off the wagon 2 weeks ago. It started innocently enough - A friend visiting from out of town wanted to go to a coffee shop and eat. They had pastrami bagels, I got one, scrapped off the meat - didn't eat the bagel. It was good. Really good. I found myself ordering this pastrami bagel to my house. Slowly enough that I didn't realize it, my old carvings came back. I found myself thinking of a deep dish pizza, over and over and over again.

There must have been sugar in the pastrami, I think I got triggered. I got the pizza, rationalizing it - I've been so good, just one cheat will be fine, then back on track. I felt bloated, stuffed, sick even - for the rest of the day. But... the next day, now I REALLY wanted a pizza - Fuck it. Got the pizza, and coffee (oh, did I mention I quit coffee 5 months ago?), and rice krispie treats.

Fast forward a few binge days... I'm feeling both HUNGRY and bloated at the same time. I tell myself I'm in control, I just need to get it out of my system. I fast for one day. I feel back in control. So it's ok to cheat again... pizza again.

During this 2 week orgy of old habits - I ate a bunch of pizza, rice krispies, cookies (that I hated, but still finished). Eventually I stopped feeling bloated, I just felt hungry.

Serious things I noticed

  • Constant cravings for old addictions
  • Gained 2kg
  • eczema came back on my hands
  • pimple breakout
  • acid reflux while trying to sleep
  • old joint problem flared up, with constant pain
  • eye floaters came back
  • gym performance steady decreased
  • gym recovery time went from almost immediate, to 3 days
  • sauna endurance plummeted (I could only stand half the time)
  • reduced sexual function

So why, why with these bad things, the constant joint pain, the acne, the eczema, the bloating... did I keep going on? When I ate I felt like I could stop it, but every day I told myself the next day. Tomorrow never came. The urges were persistent, just there constantly, I could say no... for a few hours but eventually I pulled the trigger.

8 days ago my friend came over, she has uncontrolled t2d, we both agreed to start getting clean the next day. I tried, she tried, we both couldn't do it... but I lied to her, I said I was being clean (or rather omitting that I had cheated on our pact). and the next day, and the next day.

4 days ago - I finally was able to stay clean all day. I was extremely triggered. Like a degenerate I kept putting food into my delivery app, looking at it, looking at different options - browsing my own food hookup app. I could have a Cannoli, it's been years since I had a cannoli! How about one last rice krispie, some fudge? Looking at my youtube watch history it was dominated by food, food preparation, more food porn. I struggled through it until the pizza place was closed, and I could hold off till the next day

3 days ago - The cravings were diminished, but replaced by a persistent longing - a gossamer hand on my shoulder turning me to old thoughts. It got bad, I almost cracked. Finally I mixed 75g of protein powder as a shake and downed it... Felt bloated, felt painfully full, but the food noise died down enough I could get past that day.

2 days ago - Mostly clean all day, I had the urge but if I kept busy I could ignore it. When I slowed down or had time to myself it came back. I was clean for two days, one last taste to set me up for success... I talked with my friend, we talked about the struggle, getting someone else involved helped.

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TLDR - Linoleic acid is bad, has gone up by 140%, has a half life of 600 days, and gets stored in fat tissue, Dietary sources of LA (industrial oils) have a direct influence on body composition.

Linoleic acid (LA) is a bioactive fatty acid with diverse effects on human physiology and pathophysiology. LA is a major dietary fatty acid, and also one of the most abundant fatty acids in adipose tissue, where its concentration reflects dietary intake. Over the last half century in the United States, dietary LA intake has greatly increased as dietary fat sources have shifted toward polyunsaturated seed oils such as soybean oil. We have conducted a systematic literature review of studies reporting the concentration of LA in subcutaneous adipose tissue of US cohorts. Our results indicate that adipose tissue LA has increased by 136% over the last half century and that this increase is highly correlated with an increase in dietary LA intake over the same period of time.

Full Paper https://doi.org/10.3945/an.115.009944

 

What was your latest bad idea?


I drink a cold brew this morning, because it was sitting on my desk from yesterday... Cold brew concentrate. Then after finishing my drink I went to the sauna.... This was not a good decision.

The sauna exercises the cardiovascular system

Coffee stimulates the cardiovascular system (in a different way)

I did not feel good! I only lasted half my normal time. I wont be mixing coffee and extreme heat again.

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