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[–] jet@hackertalks.com 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

We have seen related discussions about community banning before:

Lemmy's Aggressive Banning Issue

And the myriad YPTB posts about people upset they can't downvote anymore:

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

This is a 2 hour talk, if you care about VPNs this is great inside baseball view of running a VPN

Overt vs Covert threats was really interesting to me when they were talking about jurisdictions

i.e. https://www.ivpn.net/privacy-guides/isp-netflow-surveillance-and-vpn/

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Consider that your the french intelligence services and you need to setup secure communication for the french government.

  • Would you use signal out of the box? Clearly not.
  • Would you copy signal and setup your own servers and clients, same source, different end-points? Probably not.

If you said yes to either of the above, what if you were not a ally of the US, maybe Russia, China, DPRK.... Does that change your answer?

What capabilities does the runner of a centralized service have?

  • See all traffic
  • Can block traffic
  • Can slow traffic
  • Can record all traffic
  • Timing analysis of metadata

Does this mean Signal is a bad product? No not at all. But it does mean its very well positioned for intelligence harvesting. Add in storing private encryption keys in the cloud SVR relying on intel SGX security... and well... you get everything even decrypted messages.

The US controls Signal, the US controls Intel - Thus the US can get any code they want signed into SGX enclaves, thus the enclaves are pointless if your threat model includes the US as a adversary

Does this mean the protocol should be thrown away? No. Does this mean Signal shouldn't be used (depends on use case)? No. Signal has value, but its not the ultimate form of privacy and security.

I support projects like Briar because there is till much improvement needed in this space.

Notice: I'm not telling others to "educate yourself", if I didn't want to talk to people I wouldn't be here, or I'd link to the proper discussion. I dislike people who come to social places and act antisocially

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

When you find somebody's post really engaging or thoughtful, or their comment, look at their profile. See where else they post, see what communities they moderate. That's a great way to discover new and interesting things that you can vibe with

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 1 points 2 weeks ago

If your threat model includes:

  • going to protests
  • crossing international boarders
  • interacting with the police

Then GOS is pretty much the only viable option.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 4 points 2 weeks ago

Teaching someone how to be a first class wingman, what a dad!

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 15 points 2 weeks ago

You're letting perfection be the enemy of progress. No there is not a cure-all for depression, because there are many reasons for depression not a single one.

The foundations of health, are what people recommend, because if any of them are out of balance they could lead to mood disorders.

  • low quality sleep
  • missing nutrition
  • lack of sunlight
  • lack of social interaction
  • lack of cardiovascular exercise
  • excessive sugar
  • excessive inflammation

If any of these are a factor, they could be related to depression. So the general advice is generally good, hey are you doing all the foundational things? If not, Try that first!

My personal bias, is that nutrition, is the leading cause of modern maladies, including mood issues. So for people who only have the energy to fix one thing, it would recommend fixing their nutrition

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 9 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Exercise, even just walking, helps with mood

Nutrition has a HUGE impact on the brain and mood. Try to reduce/eliminate sugar consumption

Sleep quality

Sunlight exposure

Social touch points with people in real life

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 8 points 2 weeks ago

Supportive and constructive "yes! And.." feedback is a skill lots of people would benefit from adopting.

Online spaces often have purity testing and gatekeeping you wouldn't see in real physical conversations between peers.

Some of it is just people being very focused on their goal, and losing sight of the human meeting them half way.

Some of it is performative, the message isn't for the person they are speaking at, but rather the silent ocean of lurkers who might come along later.

Some of it is good old fashioned elitism "you are doing it wrong"

I imagine a lack of empathy and ability to map strangers incentives when they differ from the commenter. People can do good things for bad reasons, or they value things you dont like, etc.

Empathy would go a long way to making online spaces more enriching for all

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=1897903

The modlog in question

And the user votes: https://lemvotes.org/user/pugjesus@lemmy.world [Don't open this, its HUGE!]

This is the only downvote "series" i could find, its pretty minimal, I wouldn't consider it a issue for a instance ban.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I haven't encountered any histamine issues myself, but this comes up from time to time.

 

Are ketogenic diets dangerous? What about nutrient deficiencies, gout, gut health, keto rash, bone density loss, or kidney stones?

In this video, registered dietitian and ketogenic therapy expert Beth Zupec-Kania, RDN, CD, shares insights from over 30 years of clinical experience to address the most common concerns and misconceptions about ketogenic therapies.

From vitamin and mineral intake to gallbladder issues, sleep disruptions, leg cramps, keto flu, and more, this interview covers it all.

Beth also explains how ketogenic therapy can be adapted for various lifestyles, preferences, and health conditions, and offers practical tips for managing social situations, emotional transitions, and athletic performance while following a well-formulated ketogenic diet.

In this interview, you’ll learn:

  • Why many concerns stem from outdated pediatric protocols
  • How to safely supplement and avoid nutrient deficiencies
  • What to know about the microbiome, bowel habits, and fiber intake
  • How to prevent keto flu, leg cramps, and other common keto side effects
  • When to be cautious with medications that impact bone or kidney health
  • How keto may support those with eating disorders—not cause them

Whether you're just starting out or considering ketogenic therapy for epilepsy, type 2 diabetes, mental health, weight loss, or another condition, this video will help ease your mind of many of the concerns around ketogenic dieting.

Whether you're new to metabolic therapies or exploring ketogenic strategies for conditions like epilepsy, type 2 diabetes, serious mental illness, weight loss, or another condition, this video addresses common concerns and offers clarity on how a well-formulated ketogenic diet can be a powerful, science-backed option worth considering.

Expert Featured: Beth Zupec-Kania, RDN, CD

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The video transcript provides an in-depth exploration of the ketogenic diet, focusing on its medical applications, common misconceptions, physiological effects, and strategies to safely transition into and maintain ketosis. The discussion differentiates nutritional ketosis, achieved safely in controlled ketogenic diets, from ketoacidosis, a dangerous condition mainly occurring in type 1 diabetes due to insufficient insulin. The expert, dietitian Beth Zupca, shares her extensive clinical experience, particularly with pediatric epilepsy patients, highlighting the evolution of ketogenic therapies from rigid, classic protocols to more flexible, nutrient-rich approaches.

Key physiological challenges during the transition to ketosis such as leg cramps and the “keto flu” are explained as consequences of electrolyte imbalances and fluid shifts. Solutions like increasing salt and mineral intake, hydration, and electrolyte supplementation are recommended to alleviate symptoms. The transcript stresses individualized diet plans, addressing the specific needs of different groups, including athletes and those with treatment-resistant eating disorders. Emotional adaptation, including overcoming the psychological loss of familiar comfort foods, is underlined, promoting creative substitutes and open communication with family and social circles to mitigate social isolation.

The transcript also clarifies common misconceptions: the ketogenic diet is not a license for unrestrained fat and bacon consumption but a tailored nutrition plan adaptable to various preferences. Concerns regarding bone density, microbiome health, and uric acid fluctuations are contextualized and often debunked as myths or transient effects. The speaker concludes by encouraging education through trusted resources and a commitment to advancing public understanding of the ketogenic diet’s health benefits, safety considerations, and therapeutic potential.

Highlights

  • 🔬 Nutritional ketosis is safe and distinct from ketoacidosis, which is mostly a diabetic complication.
  • 🥗 Modern ketogenic diets are flexible and nutrient-dense, not restrictive or deficient.
  • 💧 Electrolyte imbalance during keto transition causes leg cramps and “keto flu,” manageable with hydration and salt.
  • 🏋️‍♂️ Ketogenic diet plans should be individualized, especially for athletes or those with special medical conditions.
  • 🍳 The ketogenic diet is not merely a “bacon and butter” diet; it includes diverse food options tailored to preferences.
  • 🧠 Emotional and social adaptation is vital—finding alternatives to comfort foods and seeking support eases transition.
  • 📚 Reliable education and clear communication help dispel myths and promote safe, effective ketogenic diets.

Key Insights

🔥 Distinguishing Nutritional Ketosis from Ketoacidosis: Nutritional ketosis is a controlled metabolic state achieved safely under medical supervision, primarily through ketogenic diets, whereas ketoacidosis involves dangerously high ketone levels and acidosis due to insulin deficiency in type 1 diabetes. This differentiation is crucial to debunk common fears about ketogenic diets and underscores their therapeutic potential when carefully monitored.

💧 Electrolyte Management is Crucial During Transition: The onset of ketogenic diets prompts renal excretion of sodium, potassium, chloride, and magnesium, contributing to symptoms like leg cramps and the “keto flu.” Proactive supplementation with salt and minerals alongside increased hydration is essential to mitigate these adaptation symptoms and maintain comfort and adherence.

🥑 Evolving Ketogenic Therapies Enhance Nutrient Adequacy: Classic ketogenic diets were once perceived as restrictive and nutrient-poor; however, contemporary protocols have evolved to include diverse, nutrient-rich foods and individualized supplementation strategies that address concerns about nutrient deficiencies, bone health, and microbiome balance. This evolution supports long-term sustainability and broadens applicability beyond pediatric epilepsy.

🏃‍♀️ Individualized Approaches Optimize Exercise and Metabolic Health Outcomes: Athletes and active individuals on keto may require adjusted calorie and fat intake to support endurance and performance. The ketogenic diet’s flexibility allows tailoring to distinct metabolic demands and lifestyle factors, enhancing its therapeutic and wellness benefits.

🧠 Addressing Psychological and Social Challenges Fosters Diet Adherence: Transitioning to keto involves emotional adjustments as individuals cope with the loss of familiar comfort foods and social eating norms. Encouraging alternative snacks and open communication with family and friends helps reduce feelings of social isolation, promoting psychological well-being and sustainable lifestyle changes.

⚖️ Debunking Myths Strengthens Public Trust: Misconceptions such as the ketogenic diet promoting eating disorders or being an excuse for excessive fatty food consumption undermine its legitimacy. Presenting evidence-based clarifications that keto is adaptable, health-focused, and supportive of diverse needs encourages wider acceptance and safer utilization.

🌐 Education and Trusted Resources Empower Users: Limited social media presence paired with curated educational resources stresses the importance of seeking credible guidance. Empowering people with accurate, nuanced information ensures safer adoption, better adherence, and improved health outcomes from ketogenic diets.

This comprehensive analysis underscores that ketogenic diets, when properly managed, offer safe, flexible, and effective nutritional strategies with significant therapeutic and health benefits across diverse populations.

 

The human body fixes itself, Carnivore just gets out of the way.

Why people doing Carnivore can get better

  • Zero carbohydrates

This means no blood sugar spikes, and insulin levels stay normal. This by itself is the most important benefit! There are a billion people with type 2 diabetes, this is a direct result of overconsumption of carbohydrates.

  • Complete nutrition

This means the body isn't missing anything it needs to heal.

  • Very low inflammation

Eating food is inflammatory, by avoiding all plant toxins and anti-nutrients the consumed food is very easy on the body. Some people can tolerate some plants, but not all people can tolerate all plants.


Most of medicine is getting the body into a position where it can heal itself - Just think about stitches, just hold the skin close together so the body mends and closes the wound. Carnivore gets out of the way.

Most of the modern epidemics of chronic non-communicable diseases are rooted in poor nutrition - that is to say food that stops the body from being able to heal itself.

 

From: https://www.visualcapitalist.com/charted-what-the-worlds-paying-for-eggs/

How much are eggs in your neck of the woods?

 

Kirk talks about his journey on the carnivore diet.

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Kirk’s journey to better health began with a diagnosis of macular degeneration at age 50, which led to advice from his doctor to lose weight. Initially struggling with conventional programs like Weight Watchers and undergoing bariatric surgery, Kirk experienced some success but eventually regained weight. Discovering low-carb and carnivore diets through experts like Dr. Steven Finny and Dr. Ken Berry, Kirk transitioned to a meat-focused carnivore diet, which dramatically improved his health, body composition, and energy levels. Despite having a significant family history of heart disease, a past of smoking, drinking, and multiple prescriptions, Kirk maintained good health controlled primarily through diet and lifestyle changes. In his 60s, Kirk faced serious health issues, including a lung blood clot and an unexpected heart attack caused by prior damage from a weight loss drug. After emergency treatment and open heart surgery with quadruple bypass, he made a prompt recovery, attributing much of his healing to his healthier baseline lifestyle. Kirk emphasizes the failures of the American medical system in addressing lifestyle and chronic illnesses, the influence of pharmaceuticals, and the politicization and complexity of nutrition advice from medical professionals. He advocates for real food, low inflammation, adequate salt and fat intake, and self-education to achieve and maintain health. Kirk’s experience illustrates that food can be a powerful healing tool and encourages others to explore and adapt the carnivore or low-carb lifestyle carefully for their own health improvements.

Highlights

  • 🥩 Kirk overcame macular degeneration through significant weight loss and dietary changes.
  • 🔬 Discovered low carb and carnivore diets via credible experts, changing his view on nutrition and health.
  • 💪 Carnivore diet helped Kirk lose weight, reduce inflammation, and improve energy and body composition.
  • ❤️ Despite family heart disease history and past risk factors, Kirk had a fast recovery after heart surgery.
  • 🏥 Critiques the US medical system’s lack of focus on lifestyle and preventive care for chronic issues.
  • 🍳 Emphasizes importance of adequate salt and fat intake on a carnivore diet for energy and health.
  • 📚 Advocates self-education and critical thinking in navigating health advice amid misinformation and marketing.

Key Insights

🩺 Personal health transformation is possible despite chronic conditions and family history: Kirk’s story shows that severe health risks like diabetes and macular degeneration can be significantly improved through diet and lifestyle changes, even when conventional methods fail. His recovery demonstrates health is dynamic and modifiable.

🥓 Carnivore diet’s anti-inflammatory benefits can improve pain and energy: Kirk noticed disappearing aches and increased vitality shortly after switching to a carnivore approach, which aligns with scientific understanding that low-carb, meat-based diets may reduce systemic inflammation.

🩸 Medical interventions remain critical but recovery is enhanced by prior health status: Though Kirk required open heart surgery, his relatively healthy lifestyle enabled a rapid and effective recovery, highlighting the synergy between medical treatment and lifestyle.

⚠️ Long-term consequences of past lifestyle choices and medications: Kirk’s heart issues traced back to decades of smoking, drinking, and prescription drug use (notably fenfen), underscoring that chronic disease development often spans decades and entails cumulative damage.

⚕️ Healthcare system’s lack of focus on lifestyle reflects a systemic failure: Kirk observed doctors rarely inquire about diet or lifestyle changes, implying that medicine prioritizes symptom management over prevention, influenced by economic and institutional incentives. This gap leaves patients to self-manage chronic conditions.

🧂 Electrolyte and fat intake are essential yet overlooked in diet transitions: Kirk stresses that insufficient salt and fat can cause problems during carnivore adaptation, especially for women, highlighting the importance of understanding macronutrients beyond carbohydrates in diet planning.

📖 Self-directed learning is crucial amid conflicting nutrition information and systemic bias: Kirk’s successful journey required questioning established beliefs and undertaking independent research, illustrating the importance of critical thinking to navigate misinformation and varied health advice across media and healthcare providers.

 

TLDR - I made this community because I'm following the eating pattern, and I wanted a place to talk about it.

There are at least 75 Plant Based communities on Lemmy - There is 1 Animal Based community (this is it)

There are probably 10 people who participate in the previous Carnivore community. We are a tiny group. But even tiny groups need a place to talk amongst themselves.

In my life I did SAD, Vegan, totally given up, Keto, and finally Carnivore.

Carnivore has been the single best thing I've ever done in my life, it has had the greatest impact on my health of anything I've ever done. I WANT to talk about it. I WANT to find it's limits. I'm excited that I've discovered this "secret" to modern life that eluded me for so long. I feel like I've been robbed of my youth by poor nutritional information.

This community is a place to experience Carnivore - The good and the bad. I'm not perfect, at all, I have problems, I cheat, I fall out sometimes.... That struggle is real life. Having a real space to speak of struggle is important, even if no one is listening - screaming into the void.

Has Carnivore solved nutrition? No, probably not. At least 50% of what I know is probably wrong, or incomplete enough to be wrong... I just don't know which 50%. I only care about outcomes, results. I don't have a philosophy or identity tied to my food. I'm lazy, if i could skip eating all together I would.

All of the above is why I created this community. This is also why I defend this community, so others can feel encouraged and safe expressing themselves. I know most people don't agree with Carnivore, hell I KNOW its crazy - I thought it was crazy too, before I tried it. I don't expect anyone to like Carnivore at all, I don't care what other people eat. Nobody is "Wrong" for eating what they like. I'm all about informed decisions, I'm going to present the best data I have, engage in the earnest exchange of ideas here in this community, and I respect people's choices - even if I dont agree with them.

 

I commonly get asked how to get started, and what to watch out for, so I try to address that here, along with common things that come up and trip people up with this new way of eating.

ALSO! You DON'T have to take any supplements in general. If you need to take supplements to get basic nutrition, then by definition your diet is deficient. Carnivore isn't. If you get tested and have a mild deficiency for some reason, which can rarely happen, that's when you think about supplementing. One thing to remember is that most people don't get enough sunlight, and if you're in the temperate latitudes you wont get enough anyway for 9months out of the year, even if you spend a lot of time outside. Animal fats and butter have vitamin D already in them, but if you're not getting enough for whatever reason, you can think about taking vitamin D3 (not D2) then. Links and resources below for some good to know about studies and resources!

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Dr. Chaffee presents a practical and straightforward guide to starting a carnivore diet, emphasizing simplicity and natural eating cues. The core principle is eating only meat, drinking water, and using salt to taste, while avoiding plants, sugar, and artificial ingredients in any form. Fat consumption is important but should be balanced according to how your body responds, evaluated through hunger signals and stool consistency. Organs can be eaten, but should be limited to avoid nutrient excess. The diet requires relearning natural hunger signals as carbohydrates and sugars disrupt these. Fasting, calorie counting, and exercise are optional but can complement the diet. Dr. Chaffee encourages flexibility and persistence despite occasional slip-ups, reassuring that getting back on track is easy. Alcohol is discouraged but can be consumed occasionally with awareness of its effects. Overall, the carnivore diet is positioned as the easiest diet to follow by adhering to simple rules and trusting your body’s instincts for optimal health and performance.

Highlights

  • 🥩 Simplify eating: Meat, water, and salt are your essentials on carnivore.
  • 🚫 Avoid plants, sugars, and artificial products—this includes sauces and seasonings.
  • 🧠 Relearn hunger signals; meat stops tasting good when you’re full.
  • 🥓 Fat intake is crucial but should match your body’s absorption capacity – use stool consistency as a guide.
  • 🍖 Organs are optional; too much can lead to vitamin toxicity.
  • 🍻 Alcohol affects performance; moderation and recovery are key.
  • 🔄 Slip-ups happen; simply restart without guilt and continue your journey.

Key Insights

  • 🥩 Meat and water are the foundation: The carnivore diet eliminates complexity by focusing exclusively on animal products and hydration, removing the confusion of calorie counting or macro tracking common in other diets. This simplicity promotes sustainability and natural eating habits.
  • 🚫 Excluding all plants and sugars is essential: Dr. Chaffee stresses that even natural sugars like honey can negatively impact health due to their fructose content. This strict elimination is vital for avoiding metabolic disruptions.
  • 🧠 Restoring natural hunger cues improves eating habits: Without carbohydrate-induced hormonal fluctuations, carnivore eaters can better trust their bodies to signal true hunger and satiety, leading to more intuitive eating and reduced overeating or under-eating.
  • 🥓 Fat consumption and digestion dictate stool health: Proper absorption of fat depends on bile availability, and stool consistency provides a practical marker of whether fat intake is balanced. This physiological feedback helps individuals fine-tune their diet without external measures.
  • 🍖 Organ meats are nutrient dense but should be moderated: Their higher vitamin content poses a risk of hypervitaminosis if consumed excessively, contrasting with muscle meat which provides balanced nutrition. This insight prevents harmful imbalances.
  • 🍻 Alcohol impacts energy and recovery significantly: Even occasional drinking can reduce workout capacity for weeks. Dr. Chaffee highlights personal experience with improved performance and well-being after abstaining from alcohol during sports seasons, underscoring its impact on metabolic health.
  • 🔄 Flexibility and resilience support long-term success: The mindset that slip-ups are normal and easy to overcome helps reduce psychological stress. Starting again without guilt strengthens adherence and reinforces the benefits through experiential learning of how different foods affect one’s health and vitality.

This advice equips beginners with realistic and manageable expectations, grounded in both scientific understanding and practical experience, making adherence to the carnivore diet more accessible and effective.

 

Dr Paul Mason obtained his medical degree with honours from the University of Sydney, and also holds degrees in Physiotherapy and Occupational Health. He is a Specialist Sports Medicine and Exercise Physician.

Dr Mason developed an interest in low carbohydrate diets in 2011. Since then he has spent hundreds of hours reading and analysing the scientific literature.

For the last two years, Dr. Mason has been applying this knowledge in treating metabolic and arthritis patients who have achieved dramatic and sustained weight loss and reductions in joint pain.

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Summary

In this comprehensive talk, the speaker challenges widely held beliefs surrounding fiber, gut health, and the role of the microbiome in weight management, particularly within the context of low carbohydrate diets. The talk dispels the myth that fiber is essential for a healthy diet by presenting scientific evidence showing that fiber does not alleviate constipation symptoms and, in fact, may worsen them through increased bloating and gas production. The discussion explains the fermentation of fiber and FODMAPs (Fermentable Oligo-, Di-, Mono-saccharides and Polyols) by gut bacteria, producing gases and short-chain fatty acids (SCFAs), which can lead to gastrointestinal discomfort such as bloating and constipation, often experienced in irritable bowel syndrome (IBS).

The speaker emphasizes that many foods commonly eaten on low-carbohydrate diets—such as cauliflower, berries, almonds, and artificial sweeteners known as polyols—are high in fiber or FODMAPs and can cause gut symptoms. While short-chain fatty acids produced by fiber fermentation have been credited with health benefits, including nourishment of colon cells and reducing inflammatory bowel disease (IBD), the speaker notes that ketones produced through ketogenic metabolism might be equally or more beneficial.

The presentation also critiques the notion that manipulating gut bacteria can directly cause weight loss. Although shifts in gut microbiota composition, particularly increases in bacteroidetes and decreases in firmicutes, correlate with weight loss, the actual cause is likely dietary change rather than bacterial population changes themselves. The speaker points out limitations of studies suggesting gut bacteria cause obesity, notably the artificial conditions in germ-free mouse experiments and the dependency on fiber availability for energy harvest by bacteria.

Finally, an example is given illustrating how certain dietary additives, such as trehalose, can favor harmful bacteria (Clostridium difficile), demonstrating that diet influences gut microbiota sometimes detrimentally.

The talk concludes with three core points: fiber is not necessary for a healthy diet; some low-carb foods are rich in fiber or FODMAPs and can cause digestive symptoms; and current evidence is insufficient to claim that manipulating gut bacteria can induce weight loss.

Highlights

  • 🌿 Fiber is not essential for a healthy diet and may worsen constipation and bloating.
  • 🧫 Fermentation of fiber and FODMAPs by gut bacteria produces gases causing gut symptoms.
  • 🥦 Common low-carb foods like cauliflower, berries, and almonds can cause digestive discomfort due to fiber and FODMAP content.
  • 🔬 Short-chain fatty acids produced by fiber may not be uniquely beneficial compared to ketones from ketogenic diets.
  • ⚖️ Altering gut microbiota alone is unlikely to cause weight loss; dietary changes are the main driver.
  • 🍭 Polyols (artificial sweeteners) in low-carb products can cause diarrhea and bloating.
  • 🦠 Diet can influence gut bacteria composition, but not always positively, exemplified by trehalose promoting harmful Clostridium difficile growth. Key Insights

🌾 Fiber’s role in constipation is overstated: Despite widespread recommendation, rigorous trials showing that fiber improves constipation symptoms are absent. On the contrary, evidence shows fiber often increases bloating and bowel symptoms, likely due to increased bulk and gas production that complicates stool passage.

🦠 Gut bacteria ferment fiber and FODMAPs producing gases and fatty acids: The fermentation process creates hydrogen and methane gases, which contribute to bloating and constipation symptoms in susceptible individuals, especially those with IBS. Awareness of fiber and FODMAP content in low-carb foods is clinically relevant.

🥑 Low-carb diets are not synonymous with low fiber diets: Many popular low-carb foods are high in fermentable fibers and FODMAPs, which may explain common gastrointestinal symptoms like bloating among low-carb dieters.

🔄 Short-chain fatty acids are not an exclusive benefit of fiber: Animal-based diets can produce even higher amounts of these fatty acids compared to plant-based diets. Furthermore, ketones generated during ketosis may provide more effective energy and anti-inflammatory benefits to colon cells than SCFAs produced in the gut.

🚫 Gut microbiota changes are more likely a consequence than cause of weight loss: While certain bacterial profiles correlate with obesity or leanness, changes in diet predominate in driving both weight loss and microbiome shifts. Attempts to transplant “lean” bacteria have failed to reliably induce weight loss in real-world conditions.

💊 Dietary additives can drastically impact gut bacterial populations: The case of trehalose highlights that consumption of certain sugars, recently introduced in modern food processing, favored the growth of pathogenic bacteria, illustrating that not all microbiome changes are beneficial.

⚠️ Polyols in low-carb products may cause gastrointestinal distress: Because of their poor absorption and osmotic effects, artificial sweeteners commonly marketed in low-carb bars contribute to diarrhea and bloating, which is a frequently overlooked cause of digestive upset in ketogenic diet followers.

This detailed examination challenges existing dogma about fiber and gut health, refines understanding of low-carbohydrate diet effects on digestion, and calls for caution in attributing causal effects to microbiome shifts in weight management.

 

Original introduction - https://lemmy.world/post/28787892

https://blog.gregtech.eu/posts/lemvotes/

https://lemvotes.org/

I think this is great tool to identify vote manipulation accounts.

Thanks @cm0002@lemmy.world for making me aware of this.

And thank you @Lena@gregtech.eu for developing it.

Just be aware it lists all downvotes first

 

Nina Teicholz is a New York Times bestselling investigative science journalist who has played a pivotal role in challenging the conventional wisdom on dietary fat. Her groundbreaking work, 'The Big Fat Surprise', which The Economist named as the #1 science book of 2014, has led to a profound rethinking on whether we have been wrong to think that fat, including saturated fat, causes disease.

Nina continues to explore the political, institutional, and industry forces that prevent better thinking on issues related to nutrition and science. She has been published in the New York Times, the New Yorker, the British Medical Journal, Gourmet, the Los Angeles Times and many other outlets.

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The video transcript presents a comprehensive and critical exploration of the history, chemistry, and health implications of vegetable oils, particularly focusing on their rise in the modern diet and the scientific controversies surrounding them. The speaker starts by addressing widespread misinformation about nutrition, especially the replacement of traditional saturated fats with vegetable oils in the 20th century. Vegetable oils, often misleadingly named, are primarily seed oils derived from industrial processes involving hydrogenation and chemical stabilization, unlike traditional fats like tallow, lard, butter, and tropical oils such as coconut and palm oil.

These industrial seed oils entered the food supply mainly through products like Crisco and margarine in the early 1900s, marketed extensively as modern and healthier alternatives to animal fats. The widespread adoption of vegetable oils was further accelerated by influential institutions like the American Heart Association (AHA), which had ties to the vegetable oil industry and promoted the diet-heart hypothesis—claiming saturated fats cause heart disease and urging replacement with polyunsaturated vegetable oils. However, multiple large-scale randomized controlled trials revealed no clear cardiovascular benefits from reducing saturated fat intake; instead, some showed increased risks of cancer, gallstones, strokes, and liver cirrhosis in populations consuming high vegetable oil diets.

The transcript highlights the chemical instability of polyunsaturated fats in these oils, particularly when heated, producing toxic oxidized compounds associated with cancer risks. This instability led to the use of hydrogenation, creating trans fats, which were later banned due to health concerns. Following this ban, the industry developed genetically modified oils and novel processing techniques to create stable fats, yet these alternatives are complex, costly, and not always safer than the original oils.

The speaker advocates a return to traditional saturated fats for cooking due to their stability and safety, recommending avoiding polyunsaturated seed oils, particularly in fried foods from restaurants. Olive oil, as a monounsaturated fat, is noted as a better option for cold applications like salad dressings. The discussion challenges current dietary guidelines that continue to favor polyunsaturated fats over saturated fats despite mounting contradictory evidence from high-quality clinical trials.

Highlights

  • 🌱 Vegetable oils are primarily industrial seed oils, not natural vegetable extracts.
  • 🔬 Traditional saturated fats like lard, butter, and tallow are more stable and historically used in cooking.
  • 🏭 Hydrogenation was developed to stabilize seed oils, leading to the rise of products like Crisco and margarine.
  • 💔 The diet-heart hypothesis linking saturated fat to heart disease is contradicted by large randomized trials.
  • ⚠️ Heated polyunsaturated oils produce toxic oxidation products harmful to health.
  • 🚫 Trans fats from hydrogenated oils were banned, but replacements are complex and potentially unsafe.
  • 🍳 Advocates recommend returning to stable traditional fats for cooking and avoiding vegetable oils in fried foods. Key Insights

🌾 Misleading Terminology Conceals Industrial Origin: The term “vegetable oil” falsely suggests a wholesome, plant-based source; in reality, these oils are extracted from seeds via highly processed industrial methods. This misunderstanding obscures the oils’ unnatural origins and chemical modifications, impacting consumer perceptions of healthfulness.

🧪 Chemical Instability of Polyunsaturated Fats: Polyunsaturated fatty acids (PUFAs) contain multiple double bonds that create kinks in their molecular structure, making them liquid and highly reactive with oxygen. When exposed to heat or processing, they oxidize rapidly producing toxic compounds like aldehydes, which are linked to cancer and other chronic diseases. This instability compromises their safety as cooking oils.

📉 Questioning the Saturated Fat-Heart Disease Link: Despite decades of dietary advice advocating for reduced saturated fat intake, extensive randomized controlled trials (RCTs)—the gold standard of scientific evidence—have failed to show cardiovascular mortality benefits. Instead, increased consumption of vegetable oils coincided historically with rising heart disease rates, challenging the validity of the diet-heart hypothesis.

💼 Industry Influence on Nutrition Guidelines: The American Heart Association’s strong endorsement of vegetable oils was heavily influenced by partnerships and funding from industry players like Procter & Gamble, which developed Crisco. This corporate involvement connects to biased public health messaging favoring vegetable oils over traditional fats.

🚫 Trans Fats and Unintended Consequences: The process of hydrogenation created trans fats, which have been conclusively shown to increase LDL cholesterol and cause serious health risks. Although trans fats were rightly banned, their replacements (genetically engineered oils and interesterified fats) remain chemically manipulated and raise ongoing safety questions.

🍳 Practical Dietary Recommendations: To mitigate health risks from oxidized oils, cooking should favor saturated fats (lard, tallow, butter) due to their chemical stability at high temperatures. Olive oil, being monounsaturated, is suitable for cold use but less stable for frying. Awareness about restaurant cooking oils is crucial since many use cheap, unstable vegetable oils.

⚖️ Omega-6 Excess and Inflammation: Vegetable oils are rich in omega-6 fatty acids, which have pro-inflammatory effects when consumed in excess and disrupt the omega-3 to omega-6 ratio. This imbalance may contribute to chronic inflammation and disease, a factor often overlooked in dietary discussions that focus solely on increasing omega-3 intake.

This detailed analysis sheds light on the complex history and science behind vegetable oils, encouraging a critical reconsideration of current nutritional paradigms and practical advice for healthier fat consumption.

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Coach Stephen Thomas (BSc Hons) joins me today for a discussion on plants from a dietary perspective, namely grains, vegetables and fruit. How many of the wonderful stories we've told about these plants' magical health benefits are true, and which ones deserve further scrutiny? Watch to find out!

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In this podcast episode, the host and Coach Stephen Thomas delve into the benefits of a carnivore diet, challenging traditional dietary norms that emphasize grains, vegetables, and fruits. Stephen, a former athlete and personal trainer, shares his health struggles with pre-diabetes and weight gain before adopting a low-carb, animal-based diet after turning 50, which dramatically improved his health. He critiques grains for their extensive processing and harmful components like gluten and antinutrients, arguing they contribute to various health problems. Similarly, the conversation highlights concerns about vegetables, noting that many plants produce toxic chemicals and fiber, which may hinder digestion and have little nutritional value.

The discussion emphasizes the superiority of animal-based nutrition, highlighting the higher bioavailability of animal proteins and nutrients compared to plants. The speakers explain how modern fruits, bred for sweetness, contain excessive sugars such as fructose, which can lead to metabolic disorders like fatty liver disease, despite their appealing taste. Stephen and the host share anecdotes about enhanced energy, weight loss, and improved muscle strength from cutting out plant foods and grains, contrasting their experiences with the digestive issues often reported on vegetarian diets.

Ultimately, they challenge mainstream dietary guidelines that promote plant-based eating and processed foods, urging listeners to try a carnivore diet for 30 days to witness potential health improvements themselves. The conversation advocates for a return to whole, unprocessed animal foods, underscoring the importance of bioavailability, nutrient density, and the body’s ability to efficiently utilize food for optimal health.

Highlights

  • 🥩 A carnivore diet can lead to significant health improvements, including weight loss and increased energy.
  • 🌾 Grains are heavily processed and contain harmful substances like gluten and antinutrients.
  • 🥦 Many vegetables contain toxic plant chemicals and fiber, which may disrupt digestion.
  • 🐄 Animal proteins provide superior bioavailable nutrients compared to plant proteins.
  • 🍉 Modern fruits are genetically altered to be sweeter, resulting in excessive sugar intake.
  • 🚫 Mainstream dietary guidelines promoting grains and plants may be misleading.
  • 🔄 A 30-day carnivore diet experiment is encouraged to personally assess its health benefits. Key Insights

🍖 Bioavailability is critical: The body benefits most from nutrients that can be effectively absorbed and used. Animal-based foods offer higher bioavailability than plants, meaning more nutrients are delivered in usable forms, enhancing metabolism and health. This explains why carnivore diets may foster better physical outcomes despite traditional beliefs favoring plant diversity.

🌾 Grains pose underestimated risks: Though commonly considered healthy, grains require industrial processing and contain gluten and other antinutrients that compromise gut health and contribute to inflammation and metabolic issues, which could explain rising chronic disease rates in populations consuming high amounts of grains.

🥦 Toxic plant defenses and fiber myths: While fiber is touted for digestive health, its benefits are overstated, and high-fiber intake can exacerbate gut issues. Many plants develop chemical defenses harmful or irritating to humans, challenging the notion that all vegetables are inherently healthy.

🍇 Fruit’s hidden dangers: Modern fruits are not the natural whole foods they appear to be; selective breeding increases sugar content, particularly fructose, which burdens the liver and can trigger conditions like fatty liver disease. This contrasts sharply with the common perception of fruit as a healthful staple.

⚖️ Skepticism toward mainstream guidelines: Conventional dietary advice emphasizes grains, fruits, and vegetables, yet these recommendations may overlook the negative health effects of processed carbohydrates and sugars, underscoring the need to reassess accepted nutrition paradigms.

💪 Personal experiences validate carnivore benefits: Anecdotes of improved muscle mass, reduced weight, and increased energy among carnivore dieters suggest that animal-based nutrition can outperform vegetarian approaches for many, though individual responses may vary.

🔄 Trial of carnivore diet as a health experiment: The hosts propose a practical experiment — a 30-day carnivore diet challenge — empowering individuals to empirically test its effects rather than solely relying on mainstream nutritional dogma. This hands-on approach encourages personal discovery of optimal health strategies.

 

With the winding down of lemm.ee we have had to move to our new home here at dubvee. I want to take a moment to thank you all for participating in the new community - transitions are always difficult.

I'm priming the new community with my backlog of content, but the frequency will go down once we get our footing back.

To our new friends - Carnivore is just a option, and something you can try if nothing else is working. We are focused on health benefits of nutrition and don't mind if your low carb, keto, vegan, etc. We are happy to have a discussion with what we know, and would like to learn from different perspectives as well.

I only ask that we remember the human in our conversations here, and we shouldn't be negative about anyone's choices, just present options and the best information we have so that everyone can make informed decisions.

The carnivore philosophy is one of progress and not perfection - The people here probably have tried everything else before settling on carnivore. We know about CICO, Vegan, Vegetarian, Mediterranean, bulking, etc, etc.

Carnivore is a zero carbohydrate, plant free diet.

Zero Carbohydrate - This is a ketogenic diet, yes there is a tiny bit of carbs in meat, but not a significant source. We get all of the benefits of a strict ketogenic diet

Plant Free - Some people are intolerant of some plants, if there is a persistent and hard to debug issue, carnivore is worth trying as a elimination diet. Carnivore is probably the easiest way to do keto, its hard to make a mistake, it is very simple - No Plants.

There is a spectrum here, some people use seasoning, rubs, spices, etc.. Some people are only salt and red meat. We are not judgemental here. You have a cheat day, or fall off the wagon, we are here to help you.

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