I don't think we will come to a common understanding on this topic.
I finished watching the second part and I don't believe the two men are lying and I think they are telling the truth.
If Jackon was never involved with young pre-teen boys in any manner, I would be willing to give Jackson more benefit of the doubt. But this is not the case.
Except the fact that Jackson did constantly hang out with young pre-teen boys and admitted to sleeping with them in his bed.
Not only that, he engaged in this behaviour for more than a decade. It's not just "re-living childhood," it was a constant part of his life.
He could have stopped hanging out with young pre-teen boys after the first abuse scandal in the early 90s, yet he didn't.
Never watched US college basketball via this resource, but I have watched a lot of other sports and it works great.
It's been around for many years, more than a decade (URL does change though).
Looks very cool, classic motifs, but also with unique styling (the border element).
Neither of them were actors though, one works as a choreographer and the other one is a cameraman I believe.
I've been to LA, it's not like every single person who lives in the city is a master actor. This is a ridiculous idea.
You found the statements of the two men unconvincing. I find the idea that Jackson was merely trying to re-live his childhood by hanging out with young pre-teen boys and going on sleepovers with them unconvincing.
It looked more like a man enjoying a belated childhood than a man with malicious intent towards children.
There are many ways to make up for a missed childhood, especially when you have access to large financial resources. Hanging out with young pre-teen boys, swapping them around with regularity and having sleepovers with them is not the sole way to deal with childhood abuse from your father.
One option would have been to move out of the spotlight in LA and move to some place like São Tomé and Príncipe and follow through with some new hobbies; open a restaurant, open a small record studio, set up a charity program and get involved in day to day management and development. A wide range of possibilities were open to Jackson.
While the documentary does not provide formal evidence to back the statements made by the two men, I thought their story seemed convincing. If they were lying, they have some very good acting skills.
New images have been released for the upcoming Hell House LLC: Lineage film, and apparently it won’t be shot in the found footage style.
Not sure how I feel about this, I will still watch it though.
Dog Stars sounds like a great book. Might need to read before the movie comes out.
Haven't heard of this documentary, I am going to check it out later today (although 4 hours seems a bit long). I will add that if you know where to look, you can most definitely find it. :)
EDIT: Watched Part 1. This is a pretty intense documentary.
While "innocent until proven guilty" is the correct approach, I found the stories of child abuse by Michael Jackson outlined in Leaving Neverland to be convincing.
MJ constantly hanging out and spending time with young pre-teen boys and going on "sleepovers" with them are massive red flags.
Cheers! Will need to check it out!
This was the first movie with Pattinson that I've seen. I recognized his face from one of those vampire drama/romance series, but I didn't know what his name was. Turns out he was also in a Harry Potter movie (I've only seen the first two). I thought he did a good job.
I've only seen Ruffalo in Shutter Island and maybe some other movie that I don't remember. I thought Pattinson was better, but Ruffalo was good too.
I could see Mickey 17 getting cult status.
Many movies that are now considered legendary initially didn't fare that well. Some examples include Blade Runner and Brazil (also a scifi, black comedy with some rather brutal themes).
I will admit that some parts of the Mickey 17 were a bit disjointed.
These are private trackers, right?