j4yc33

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[–] j4yc33@piefed.social 3 points 1 month ago (7 children)

I think it will bring Valve to dominating the console market in their class, a concept that you should be well familiar with, given your clear explanations of how like things should be compared.

Will it outsell the Ps5? Probably not on release, no. Will it be better than the Ps5? Probably, if only because it has broader flexibility.

Will the Steam Box outsell the Atari VCS, Evercade, and Polymega? Almost certainly, but hey, I'm only trying to compare like to like.

Will the Steam Frame outsell the Meta Quest 3 and the HTC XR and Vive Focus? It definitely has the potential to be super competitive if not on top.

Will the Steam Controller be the dominate PC-Console type controller? Maybe, the memory of the Old Steam controller is going to die hard and slowly.

[–] j4yc33@piefed.social 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (9 children)

The Steam Machine did not sell well, however it gave Steam the bandwidth to work on Proton and SteamOS which ultimately lead to the deck, that did not flop.

Might I interest you in the much lesser well known Steam Link? Also a Desktop-Console-type device. It gave Valve the experience to give us the ability to Stream games to other computers on the network via Steam, thus saving distributed space.

Or the Steam Controller, which is also referenced in the article? They learned lessons and fixed the problems with it for the Deck control scheme, which is now being used to create a better product.

Or the Valve Index, which is also referenced in the article? They learned many lessons by using this as a test bed, that allowed them to make the Steam Frame.

All you have done in this entire thread is indicate that you don't understand iterative development, and that a company would be willing to make mistakes to learn from them and improve.

[–] j4yc33@piefed.social 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's not rude, on the other hand, I played these games then... I enjoyed these games then... I do not enjoy them now...

The only MMO I can still enjoy is Neocron. There's an element to actually needing to obtain mastery that doesn't involve button mashing that I miss from my games. Actual targeting, puzzles and dungeons where having an understanding of the lore is beneficial... that kind of thing.

[–] j4yc33@piefed.social 2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Well, I just found what to do with my free time in the next couple days! Thanks AngryishHumanoid!

[–] j4yc33@piefed.social 19 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The Steam Deck was a flop? I was unaware.

I think if there are objective specifications of a device, and the device's specifications are measurably better than another device there's nothing wrong with comparing the two.

However, the root of my response, which has been so gracefully sidestepped, is regarding the root of the comment that the PS5 is old. Yes, it may be a few years old, but it is still the current console generation.

I guess everyone should just go out and chuck all their old consoles into the giant mountains of E-waste because we should all be setting up to have the newest most powerful thing!

[–] j4yc33@piefed.social 4 points 1 month ago (7 children)

It's OK, it's been SUPER modernized. The controls still work, but that old feel is missing.

[–] j4yc33@piefed.social 29 points 1 month ago (37 children)

Sure, it's old, it's also the current console generation...

[–] j4yc33@piefed.social 23 points 1 month ago

I have seen that Valve has said the Frame will be cheaper than the Index. That would really make it.

This is gonna be good.

[–] j4yc33@piefed.social 3 points 1 month ago

Fair point, fair point. :-D

[–] j4yc33@piefed.social 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I have to ask: Did you scream this question at the top of your lungs?

[–] j4yc33@piefed.social 8 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I have a funny screenshot about this! I didn't know Fedora and OpenSUSE were Debian based! /s

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