Yes! I am a small, AFAB femme looking person. You are absolutely correct- it's about taking something naturally feminine and exaggerating it to appeal to hierarchical power. It's been the only way to placate some people, throughout my life!
It's unfair to everyone, the same way telling AMAB kids to 'speak like a man or no one will respect you'. No one should require a deep voice to be respected.
We need to fix this ingrained issue of gender expression = ability.
Oh that's absolutely what I do now. I'm some shade of gender fluid/NB, and my phone voice goes so high pitched when I'm stressed that it makes me very uncomfortable. I'm rooting it out.
I'm amazed at how much differently people respond to me, depending on the gender mannerisms I use.
A good steak pun is a rare medium done well.
Ha me too. I'm bad with controlling my voice in general, tone and volume included, and it gets harder when I'm tired lol
If I could go back and do it again, I would fucking embrace it.
She should use that voice to defend her autonomy, and to sound like herself. Seriously.
I work in hard science IT, and as I shed my feminine vocal habits, my job is easier. People listen to me more. My life is better, I'm not forcing my thoughts through a Play-Doh mold of intonation.
It can absolutely be a skill, because it will set her apart!
fundie
victimized as a child
That venn diagram is a circle.
Framed as well meaning, oh-honey advice from older women, I've heard that or some shade of it at least 100 times since around 8yo, I don't think it's rare, unfortunately.
It went hand it hand with "the bellies that show are the first to swell", which my store manager said to me at 17yo, the comments that other girls should keep their boyfriends (my friends) away from me, all the weird punishing ingrained misogyny bullshit women do to each other in US gender culture.
As soon as I got secondary sex characteristics, I started getting in trouble for just, like, existing
I watch some of Discovery and hated it, frankly. I'm a diehard dark trek DS9er, but that ain't it.
SNW is visually opulent and fantastic, it really is what Discovery missed and I highly recommend it. Lower Decks had to grow on me and is now a favorite. Worth checking out imo!
In my experience as AFAB with a more monotone, less femme voice, I got 'you sound bossy' 'you sound like a bitch' or just ignored until I 'asked nicely' which meant 'sound subservient'.
It has caused me so much trouble in sounding authoritative, because I always had to be high pitched to be heard, but deep pitched to actually be listened to.
He's gotta make sure you know the real villain!
It's not his wandering eyes, it's the immodest harlots not following rules.
I feel like I read something about plucking out wandering eyes... Hmm must be from some obscure atheist text.
I mean, that's the problem in a nutshell.
My feminine voice only carries weight as maternal/bossy/bitchy authority, and that fucks me over constantly. Just like this.