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Manul ??

That's probably why the vendor mentioned it wasn't quite an Unlock game, but rather a Star Wars light escape room game!

I don't, and yes of course it is, but for example plant-based “chicken” is not being sold as just “chicken.” It’s always labeled “plant-based chicken”, “vegan chicken”, etc. That’s within the same product category, and still not confusing to consumers ; see the study linked in the article (https://www.beuc.eu/sites/default/files/publications/beuc-x-2020-042_consumers_and_the_transition_to_sustainable_food.pdf).

So the real question is: is there actual confusion happening among consumers buying food? And the answer from courts, regulators, and common sense has been a consistent no because context is already doing its job.

Then you have a problem with reality itself, I highly encourage you to visit plant based alternative aisles if you can, to ground your arguments with facts. If you can't debate without being condescending, we're done here. Bye.

Happy to keep debating. Less so if we’re just going to trade insults. If you have a solid point, make it, no need to get nasty.

• The CJEU ruling did say that member states can’t ban plant-based products from using meat-related terms if the labeling is clear. That’s literally what it ruled. You don’t get to rewrite case law just because it doesn’t fit your perspective.

• No one is selling something called just “chicken” when it’s made from plants — it’s always labeled “vegan chicken”, “plant-based chicken”, etc. That’s not misleading. That’s clear communication, and it works — the CJEU said this is fine as long as the ingredients list is transparent.

• Dismissing the examples of almond milk, beefsteak tomatoes, or coconut cream just because they don’t fit your argument doesn’t make them disappear. Language evolves. These aren’t “gotchas” — they’re everyday proof of how people understand food labeling in real life.

If your main concern is protecting consumers, we agree. But pretending this is some epidemic of deception when zero data backs that up? That’s just the meat lobby talking.

By your logic, so would be the beefsteak tomato, almond milk, coco cream, butternut... Which are actual vegetables.

If you consider yourself not capable enough to read the ingredients when selecting a product to buy, that's on you. This is what the CJEU is saying: there is no misleading in using these terms. There has been zero recorded intent at misleading consumers from plant based alternatives producers.

Do you get mad at the "misleading animal names" meme?

We're not talking about vegetables products but plant based alternatives. We're not talking about protected product names but common words used in our vocabulary daily.

And : IMO the decision of the European Parliament supersedes the panic of the meat industry when it comes to vocabulary. Language evolves. I don't see them attacking beauty products because they're selling "cream"

FYI : this was already a thing in France circa 2022 and was quickly shut down because of how ridiculous of a request this is

Two previous amendments that would have restricted the labelling of plant-based meat — including terms such as “burger” and “sausage” — were rejected by MEPs in 2020. Furthermore, the Court of Justice of the European Union ruled last October that no member state could prohibit plant-based alternatives from using terms traditionally associated with animal products, as long as the ingredients are clearly shown on the label.

The meat industry back at it again when this was already discussed and ridiculed last year