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is that the correct website? do you maybe mean marxists not marxism?

what is?

that's a nasty thing to say

??? I think your comment might have gotten edited by hexbear.

failed because the potential members where not properly informed and the organizers got ahead of themselves.

it's called a hot shop and like 90% of workplaces that contact a union all ready to organize are like this. 2 weeks later the whole organizing committee is some combination of quit/fired. Or maybe the boss bought them pizza and promised to change so energy is gone. I don't know if the situation described will be like this, it might not be.

Good stuff!

I would discourage you from making assumptions one way or another about how people will act based on their political orientation or even stated beliefs about unions. People who area "anti union" and "pro capitalist" are general also "pro job security", appreciate regular raises, want health benefits. They can be turned around by participating in and benefiting from solidarity. And like, they can be fundamentally changed as people.

Of the other hand, the most rad communist, ML, anarchist, syndicalist, maoist... any of these can be useless or even turncoats in a union drive. Don't trust based on memes or music or readings or tattoos or having the correct line.

he's far too lazy to do anything but mouth off

this is the right way to assess. What do people do? Will they take a risk one way or another? Will they call someone up and try to influence their behaviour? Will they snitch?

his influence is limited to a small satellite facility with like 3 coworkers.

Sounds like you are already doing mapping? Make sure that every person who joins your committee does mapping, even if you think you have no new information to gain. It's a really good way to start thinking like an organizer.

Is it a real union? or is it like CLAC or some other yellow union?

Luckily, thanks to a new law, any union vote over 55% in favour doesn't require certification anymore! 45-55% does. So obviously we'd be aiming for 55%+ if we could.

60% maybe 70%

And who are the remainders? Hard line anti union or just don't care? It makes a difference. You will need to know. Will the run a decert campaign? They will end up being in the Bargaining Unit. Will they obstruct the democratic process of the union?

Getting an employee list is easy, I have full access to that. Phone numbers I can get for all the lead hands very easily

Do you actually have the list? Or do you just think you could get it any moment? Get it now. The very first thing your employer will do when they hear about this could be pull the contact list.

Create and populate a spreadsheet. Verify for changes on a regular basis.

As the saying goes:

Don't think you know. Know you know.

My info might be a few years out of date but I doubt much has changed.

Canadian labor law is much, much more restrictive on the workers than US, UK or other jurisdictions people might be framiliar with. For one thing, every collective agreement (CA) in Canada has a "no strike clause". It is not possible to be a recognized Bargaining Unit without this, even if the employer were to agree to it. In order to obtain a CA, you must agree to only engage in strikes according to very specific rules laid out in your provincial Labor Relations Act. You cannot strike while the CA is in force, and even then after certain steps and timelines have been followed.

This is highly relevant to the IWW due to their ban on "no strike" clauses. Although actually now that I am looking through a IWW constitution I can't find the language. Perhaps thy changed it? For a long time, it was not possible for the IWW to act as an "official union" in canada because canadian-style CAs violated the constitution.

All the provinces except for Alberta have cookie cutter labor relations acts/codes. Look yours up. Alberta is also fucked just not identically.

Just as a random example, see below from Manitoba The Labour Relations Act, C.C.S.M. c. L10. I annotated and highlighted it.

Within Canada you might consider contacting the Edmonton IWW even if there is another one closer to you.

You should also use this form https://www.iww.org/organize/ to contact the north american organizing department.

It is highly likely you will end up going with another union but getting the influence of the IWW is a good move. They will provide context to understand the actions and motivations of the others. In all cases keep your antennas up.

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I don't want to take help from them and then form a union under Teamsters or something, kind of feels like wasting their resources idk maybe this is fine??

Do not worry about this. The IWW does not get too salty about "poaching". Certainly they do not engage in mob-type territorialism. IWWs understand the difficulty of shopping for a union and respect the agency of workers to make an informed decision. They should also be extremely aware and clear about their deficits. Going with the IWW is a big decision and nobody would want it to happen because someone felt guilted into it.

IWW tacticts are in use far and wide under many organizational banners. Here is a great little booklet published years ago which discusses specifically: Weakening the dam - Twin Cities IWW. See the chapter Lasting Lessons from the Class Struggle:

The concept of producing organizers at one company who scatter out to others companies has become a maxim for some IWW organizers in industry-wide efforts, and the concept is a good one, but there's something more to it. Not everyone is going to become an organizer but everyone is going to have [t]o assess the fight they've just been through and draw conclusions for their own lives. When the dust settles from our action, as it inevitably does, we are left to consider what happened. We have seen the power we have as workers, a power unknown before. It may not occur to us immediately, but with any major change in our lives, there is a resonance - a white noise that does not go away. It could be a month later and we could be at the same job, or a year later and we could be two jobs down the road, but we will remember. And when we have the chance, we line up with, or maybe even lead, an effort to organize and take a stand against the boss. This time we do it with less hesitation than before, maybe with more foresight and with more vigor, because now we know exactly what it means.

The bottom line is this: our organizing needs to have as its byproduct a new increase in workers' willingness to resist - an increase in our propensity to act on our urges to resist the bosses - even if the resistance is individual. This is the revolutionary outcome. This will lay the groundwork for future organizing, in this industry or others. To “organize the worker not the job” as we say in this union, is to gradually create new kinds of people, people who are most likely to never again roll over and take the shit the boss throws at them.

She is sixty fucking seven years old? Looks 30-40.

maybe there is something about having the kind of body that's less likely to develop prostate cancer that makes ejaculations more common. Or leads one to report a higher rate when asked retrospectively which I assume is what happened here.