much of the lore of the early/earlier internet being built is also full of some extremely, extremely unhinged stuff. I've had some first-hand in-the-trenches accounts from people I've known active from the early-mid 90s to middle 00s and holy shit there are some batshit things happening in places. often think of it when I see the kinds of shit thiel/musk/etc are all up to (a lot of it boils down to "they're big mad that they have to even consider other people and can't just do whatever they like")
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I really don't buy the "billing mistake" line - they've been doing the same thing to many other community-org slacks. I've seen with my own eyes the mail that was sent to the ZA tech slack
will keep the offer in mind when I have the spoons and round tuits for it :)
I’m a bit split on this one
on the one hand, the post as first posted had a lot of “victimised” language (“omg slack is extorting us”) and frankly that felt like bait - esp as many, many volunteer-type orgs that have had similar slack setups have been taking a hammer for months now (as I posted before, a local ZA tech setup was one, and more recently that big k8s one too). there’s enough precedent here that expecting slack to have behaved otherwise (even “honourably”) seems to me to have been almost foolish
on the other, slack 100% only took action once this did hit hype and enough eyeballs, and only reacted since it was an embarrassment
but…yeah. slack hasn’t been a good option for public use for literally years now :|
it would be incredible if yud’s one of the types to lose his focus around sauce 3, would do a real kicker to the shine of his grift
someday(tm) I’ll get around to looking into getting a season pack from the states to here (which possibly might be distinctly non-trivial, and if it is I’ll have bother trying to figure out the logistics of it, which ugh)
is the consensus solution on how to subvert the acausal robot god
dunno if you've yet gotten to look at the most recent yud emanation[0][1][2], but there's a whole "and if the robot god gets too uppity just boop it on the nose" bit in there
[0] - I mean the all-caps "YOU'RE ALL GONNA DIE" book that came out recently
[1] - yes I know "emanation" is a terrible wordchoice, no I won't change it
[2] - it's on libgen feel free to steal it, fuck giving that clown any more money he's got enough grift dollars already
heard people reached those by just deleting tweets by hand.
yeah, the various backend interactions tied to web controls are extremely low-count limited
you could probably do it by smacking together a userscript (or whatever the fuck is the these-days version of greasemonkey/tampermonkey/??? to use) with a moderately simple algorithm.. open a window, click execute, leave it going by itself for however long it takes to get through everything. it doesn't have to do everything in minutes
I also heard blocklists put a high strain on the twitter so not going to look into removing that
probably the feed compute stuff only has this computational expense incurred for any displayed feeds (pruning off calculating stuff for long-enough-inactive users is one of the cheapest easy gains in that type of content feed), so this might not matter much. don't have enough insight into real ops there to know one way or the other tho
it's kinda hilarious how close "steelmanning" (as practiced by some) already is to this, but probably not far enough to be usable for that purpose on its own
thanks for linking this, was fun to watch
hadn't seen that saltman clip (been real busy running around pretty afk the last few weeks), but it's a work of art. despite grokking the dynamics, it continues to be astounding just how vast the gulf between fact and market vibes are
and as usual, Collier does a fantastic job ripping the whole idea a new one in a most comprehensive manner
it kept being funny to me that even while xanadu had already shown the problems with content control the entirety of the NFT craze just went on as if it was full greenfields novel problem
some of these people just really don't know their history very well, do they
on a total tangent:
while xanadu's commercial-aspiration history is intimately tied up in why it never got much further, I do occasionally daydream about if we had, and if we could've combined it with more-modern signing and sourcing: daydream in the respect of "CA and cert chains, but for transcluded content", esp in the face of all the fucking content mills used to push disinfo etc. not sure this would work ootb either, mind you, it's got its own set of vulnerabilities and problems that you'd need to work through (and ofc you can't solve social problems purely in the technical domain)
has there been any meaningful advancement or neat new research in agoric computing? haven't really looked into it in a while, and the various blockchain nonsense took so much air out of the room for so long I haven't had to spoons to look
(separately I know there's also been some developments in remote trusted compute, but afaict that's also still quite early days)