Building more, and building social housing in particular, is absolutely necessary. At the same time, building takes a long time to meet demand, while reducing demand can be instantaneous.
frostbiker
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I'm not asking anybody to forget anything. I'm saying that speaking a common language is highly beneficial to communication, and thus should be promoted.
I'm also saying that it is hypocritical for people who expect immigrants to integrate, yet at the same time refuse to integrate themselves. Like it or not, English is the lingua franca since at least WW2, and even more so since the advent of the Internet.
You and I would not even be having this conversation if it wasn't for our ability to speak fluent English.
Reducing demand. For housing
It's as simple as not introducing a million immigrants per year when we are in the middle.of a housing crisis. A temporary reduction makes a lot of sense and can be done with the stroke of a pen.
Yes, because they didn’t go anywhere
Neither did First Nations people, and I don't see the majority of Quebecois speaking any of those languages either. And thank goodness we don't have each municipality speaking their indigenous tongues -- it would be impossible to talk to each other!
So let's all be practical and discuss our differences and our commonalities in a common language, rather than constructing language ghettos around us out of fear.
This whole pandemonium is awful from start to finish. I feel for the civilians who have been caught amidst the senseless violence. I hope peace will somehow persevere at some point, as difficult as it might be to get there.
If your native language is not English, it shouldn’t be hard to empathize with francophones living in Montreal aren’t happy that their children speak more English than French in a French speaking city because this means that a few generations later French is just going to disappear
My children speak my native language, but my grandchildren won't. That's how it works. Somehow millions of immigrants are expected to understand and accept this, but Francophones somehow feel special?
Quececois aren’t resisting the sharing their culture, they just want to keep it alive. You asking them to share their culture in the language you understand is just glossing over the fact that the language is a part of the culture
It really isn't. My culture, my traditions, my way of thinking doesn't automatically change when I switch to English or any other language. A language is nothing but a tool to communicate ideas, and a multiplicity of languages only serves as a barrier that stops people from understanding each other. I'm all for a universal language to facilitate the free interchange of ideas.
That’s a shit take
That rudeness is uncalled for. You can do better.
As an immigrant, something I like about Canada is how regardless of where we came from we all make an effort to speak to each other in the common language so that we can learn and understand each other. And then there is Quebec sulking because we don't speak their language, instead of following everybody else.
I didn't lose my culture just because I use English as a vehicular language. I gained all sorts of stuff from other people, which I wouldn't have if I or they refused to speak the common language. So, please, Quebecois, do share your beautiful culture with us -- in the language we all understand.
What do you mean by going straight to the mainland? Most of Spain is separated from Africa by the strait of Gibraltar, where waters are remarkably dangerous.
Some people attempt to reach Spain by land via Ceuta or Melilla, two Spanish towns that are geographically located in Africa across the strait. The border between these two towns and Morocco is rather heavily protected, though, precisely to discourage people from entering illegally.
The Canary Islands have been part of Spain for centuries. Thus, once you reach them you are inside Spain, the EU and the Schengen area.
Surely that depends on the dosage. I don't know how drunk/stoned people are when they decide they are sober enough to drive. It is possible that alcohol makes that self-assessment particularly poor, but I haven't seen any data yet. I'd love to learn more.
I'm a disabled queer immigrant white dude that would cringe hard at the very notion of excluding somebody from a community just because they are able-bodied, straight, indigenous, non-white or female. Imagine a university that excluded non-whites -- why should we tolerate universities that exclude men? It's sexism plain and simple. It goes against every other progress we've made in civil rights in the last century.
Thank you for your very civil response.
Earlier you said that it's okay for millions of immigrants to lose their language, but now you equate that to "your culture being erased". This means that in your mind culture erasure is fine as long as it only affects immigrants. But now you criticise me for being okay with losing my language? So which side of things are you on?
As I said earlier, I'm on the side that understands that language and culture are distinct, which is obviously true given that a person can learn multiple languages and retain the same knowledge, beliefs, customs, traditions, etc.
Have a great day, sir/madam.