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[–] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 33 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (11 children)

I would need to analyze the situation. The CPC has established it will not do this for any reason except to protect Chinese national security interests. If it turns out that the USA delivers advanced missile "defense" systems and other nuclear capabilities including submarines, air power, and other plaforms and assets, then it will be all but strategically certain that China will be forced to use military action to push the USA off the island and out of the surrounding waters.

Given the analysis of the Ukraine conflict, it's possible that China may need to include other considerations that I am not fully up to speed on about American capabilities and American proxy war strategies.

In short, yes, I trust the CPC to only use military force when all other options for defense against the USA have been exhausted. This has been their policy and doctrine for a while and there are no indications of it changing anytime soon.

[–] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 45 points 2 years ago (14 children)

What the fuck is wrong with you? The idea that the USA could possibly engage in appeasement is completely undermined by the fact that THEY ARE THE AGGRESSOR WHO IS BEING APPEASED. When China pushes back against the USA they are not doing something wrong, they are doing something against the USA's interests. When China doesn't push back against the USA, they are appeasing.

The entire analysis of "oh everyone is bad and therefore the USA shouldn't appease them" is completely structureless. It's all moron vibes.

[–] freagle@lemmygrad.ml -4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

You think a coup is anti-authoritarianism? A military coup? Are you daft? It's an absolutely authoritarian response to centuries of authoritarian dominance. Russia is fighting the imperialist bloc, African nations are fighting the imperialist bloc. They are allies in the fight against imperialism, not against authoritarianism. Only liberals in the West analyze things along "authoritarian" lines.

[–] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 63 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (66 children)

It is the USA that has been the target of appeasement. Every expansion, every death squad, every war crime, every black site, every assassination, every war of aggression, every single time the world appeases the USA.

If you think the USA is appeasing China, your head is screwed on backwards. I know it's a common trope for abusers to feel offended and attacked when their victims standup for themselves, and I know you probably stand with the victims and see through the abusers' bullshit. You need to do that with the USA.

Abu Ghraib - appeased.
Nord Stream 2 - appeased.
Solemaini - appeased.
Iraq - appeased.
Iraq 2 - appeased.
Vietnam - appeased.
Laos - appeased.
Cambodia - appeased.
Korea - appeased.
Hiroshima - appeased.
Nagasaki - appeased.
Guantanamo - appeased.
Libya - appeased.
Syria - appeased.
StuxNet - appeased.
Pulling out of nuclear treaties - appeased.
Refusing to be accountable to ICC - appeased.
Refusing to sign landmine treaty - appeased.
Agent Orange - appeased.
Napalm - appeased.
White phosphorus - appeased.
Depleted Uranium - appeased.
Yugoslavia - appeased.
Afghanistan - appeased.
School of the Americas - appeased.
Wiretapping the entire US civilian population - appeased.
Wiretapping every embassy through Siemens supply chain attack - appeased.
NATO expansion - appeased.
Economic shock therapy kills millions - appeased.
Training terrorists - appeased.
Airlifting terrorists into other countries - appeased.
Environmental devastation - appeased.
Sending expired vaccines - appeased.
Refusing to send vaccines - appeased.
Refusing to follow the predefined protocol for sharing vaccine research - appeased.
Iranian regime change - appeased.
Color revolutions - appeased.
Extracting trillions from Africa - appeased.
Child separation - appeased.
Toddlers in solitary confinement - appeased.
Forced hysterectomies - appeased.
Collective punishment of civilians - appeased.
Support for Israeli apartheid - appeased.
Iran-Contra - appeased.
Fast and Furious - appeased.
CIA drug trafficking - appeased.
Haitian assassination - appeased.
Bolivia - appeased.
Nicaragua - appeased.
Pinochet - appeased.

I can keep going if you want.

[–] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 39 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's because they literally think it's a sportsball game and you root for teams based on your hormonal resonance with their public image.

[–] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 39 points 2 years ago (5 children)

This winter is going to be an absolutely terrifying way to end 2023

[–] freagle@lemmygrad.ml -2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Profiting from another country is not imperialism. Profiting from another country is literally what is required in capitalism. You cannot avoid it. Condemning Russia for exploiting African countries is ludicrous in this regard. African countries WILL be exploited under a capitalist world order because that is the logic of exchange under capitalism. African countries would need to move beyond raw materials and intermediate materials and even beyond standard manufacturing and into high tech manufacturing but they can become exploiters of some other country. We are so far away from that state of affairs. Therefore, countries in Africa must of logical necessity be exploited if they are to participate at all in the global economy. These is no space in the North Atlantic capitalist world order for any other outcome.

So now we have to figure out what's better - maintaining North Atlantic dominance in an unbroken 600-year genocidal campaign to control all of the world's people and resources? Or resistance, revolution, and development supported by Russia and China who are the only 2 countries currently able to withstand the North Atlantic geostrategically, financially, militarily, politically, and diplomatically.

The answer, of course, is that anti-imperialism supported by Russia is far superior to letting the status quo ride, and is also superior to going up against the North Atlantic alone.

[–] freagle@lemmygrad.ml -3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Imperialism is:

  • Monopoly capitalism
  • Export of finance capital as primary
  • dividing up the world amongst other finance capitalists

Korea, Brazil, and India are in no position to be imperialist. They are countries exploited by the imperialist bloc. Russia is even smaller than these countries and is even more exploited. It literally does not fit the definition of imperialism.

[–] freagle@lemmygrad.ml -2 points 2 years ago (4 children)

You think Russia's national self-interest isn't served by anti-imperialist movements bogging down the North Atlantic?

[–] freagle@lemmygrad.ml -5 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Whataboutism and projection. You can't just say "but what about Russia" when people are fighting against North Atlantic imperialism. This article is about North Atlantic imperialism. Mentioning Russian so-called imperialism is whataboutism.

Also, Russia isn't doing imperialism because it in no way meets the definition of imperialim. It's economy is smaller than Brazil's and smaller than South Korea's. 60% of its exports are raw materials or intermediate materials. India exports 3 times more capital than Russia does. Clearly South Korea and India aren't imperialist. Russia isn't either.

[–] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago (6 children)

You think Russia is toppling African countries for its own gains? It's far more likely that it's providing material support for anti-imperialist and decolonial movements in order to open up more fronts that the North Atlantic has to deal with.

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