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Flax, this thing where you walk into a thread about trans issues and your only contribution is calling people crazy and pedantry is getting really old. It doesn't make you look smart, you just come across as someone trying to mask their transphobia (and no, I'm not calling you a transphobe).

ಠ_ಠ take your upvote

Normally not much, but we've seen a big uptick in transphobia in wake of the Supreme Court ruling here which hasn't been fun.

The linked linkers, because we're link aggregators that link together.

I've said this elsewhere, but there's something off about that account that I can't put my finger on. Like, what kind of Trump supporter opens up a socialism community on a UK focused forum?

Probably because of what happened with woem.men.

According to the Supreme Court of the United Kingdom, you have to be born as a woman in order to be a woman.

This isn't accurate, the SC ruled that the only consistent definition of woman for the purposes of the 2010 Equalities Act is a 'biological woman'*. A trans woman with a GRC is still legally a woman, she's just not afforded the protections graned to women in the Equalities Act. (This is a crock of shit, but I'll spare you that rant)

* You might wonder how the SC actually defines 'biological woman' and it has nothing to actually do with biology, it's just if you originally had woman marked down on you birth certificate.

Hi, Feddit UK admin here, I'd just like to add a bit more context. We're currently discussing these comments in an admin chat, though this was apparently not communicated to Ada so she got the impression inaction was our position. Our position is not inaction, but these specific comments have become wrapped up in a policy discussion on how we facilitate discussion of our state's increasing hostile actions without allowing transphobia to propagate. I hope we can rectify the situation soon, but doing things by committee is never swift.

To be clear, there were no posts, this is about two comments by one of our users, both of which I personally pushed back on. We're still discussing what to do, but consensus takes time.

I use the term woman and you knew exactly what I meant

I didn't actually, I wrote that to probe out what you actually meant because I was giving you the benefit of the doubt.

A blonde woman is a description of a woman’s hair colour and you know this.

And trans/cis is a descriptions of whether a woman was assigned female at birth or not. Woman is not synonymous with cis woman.

They have different names, which you yourself, use for a reason.

You give them different names, I'm using adjectives because the distinction matters in this context.

‘adult human female’ is not a dog whistle. It’s a legal and common-sense definition

It really isn't. When you meet someone irl, you brain doesn't decide if it thinks they are a man or woman based on their chromosomes or some bioessentialist bs, it does it based of social ques because man/woman are social categories.

I am not denying the legitimacy of transwomen [sic]; nor is Keir.

But also:

This is exactly the same as saying transwomen [sic] are not women, because they are not. They are transwomen [sic].

Should a transwoman have the same rights and respect as a woman? Absolutely. Are they the same? No, they are not.

'As a woman', a trans woman is a woman, different from a cis woman sure, but still a woman. This statement is fairly absurd if you substitute trans with another adjective, like is a blonde woman different from a woman?

Kier’s words are still not transphobia. There is no fear, dislike, prejudice, discrimination, harassment, or violence in his statement.

The prejudice is denying the legitimacy of trans women as women. 'Adult human female' is a dog whistle for 'not trans', so by asserting that a woman is 'an adult female' he's saying trans women aren't women (and that trans men aren't men).

His new comments came as Equalities Minister Bridget Phillipson said the ruling means transgender women should use male toilets.

The SC ruling didn't even say that trans people had to be excluded from single-sex spaces, only that they could. This is the same shit they pulled with the Cass Review, which didn't call for puberty blockers to be banned, but they always assert that it did.