That's news. We already have a name for that kind of content, it's news. What do you want to use the word politics for when we already have the word news?
exocrinous
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FiniteBanjo:
Floey is implying
Inherently? No, that's not needed to construct Floey's argument. Floey's argument requires only that the meat producing process be practically torturous. And it is. Most chickens are raised in quarters so cramped that they need to be debeaked so they won't peck each other to death from the stress.
It would be whataboutism if the purpose were to excuse this man's action by pointing to other examples. But I don't believe the person you're replying to intended that. I think they mean to say this man is awful, and so are carnists, which is not whataboutism.
The word politics is more useful to misogynist gamers and incels than it is to anyone else. You certainly weren't using it for anything productive. I believe we should make the word useless for everyone.
Of course, the first step is to accept that convincing people to be less evil, is more important than vanity and holding to the idea that you’re somehow better than them.
Of course I believe that. I believe the best way to convince people not to kill is to shame killers. It's nothing to do with my ego. It's not hypocrisy to want there to be less death in the world, and accusing me of letting children drown or wanting to be superior is not only silly, it's irrelevant to your own actions. It's just a mechanism for you to process your shame. You know killing is bad and you want an excuse. You think if you can change the subject to my actions and how I'm not Literally Superman, then you won't have to think about your actions. But tough nuts because we are not changing the subject. I proposed a truce. We won't say your actions are wrong if you don't kill animals. That way you don't have to deal with mean words, and the animals don't have to deal with murder. I daresay that approaches fairness. If you want to make the argument that mean words are incomparable to a life and the animals are getting a bloody good deal out of a truce, then yeah, I guess their lives are more important than your feelings, how bout that!
The republicans claim that american democrats want a socialist revolution, free healthcare for all, to abolish the police, and to accept all genders no matter how nontraditional. I wish that was true. I wish all the awesome stuff republicans say about the left were correct. And I endeavour to make my wish come true every day. If you don't want the left to be as cool as I want it to be, get used to calling yourself a centrist, cause we moving the overton window ALL the way to the left
I don't care what exact part of the process of killing for pleasure causes the pleasure. The action is the same. The harm is the same. I don't care about motives for murder except in the interest of preventing them.
But buying a burger is the same as torturing animals for fun. Meat isn't fun for the slaughterhouse worker, it's fun for the customer. And the customer is the one making the whole operation happen. All the money comes from the customers.