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A look ahead at the 2024 schedule… how do we feel about it compared to this years? (alien.top)
 

DET 2x, MIN 2x, GB 2x, LAR, AZ, SF, SEA, HOU, TEN, IND, JAX

Assuming the Bears finish 4th in the division (most likely), they would play the 4th place finishers of the NFC East and NFC South.

The NFC South 4th place finisher is gonna be the Panthers, and for the NFC East it’s really between the Giants and Commanders but I think it’ll be the commanders.

The Bears will play the 17th game against the same place finisher of the AFC East, so that will probably end up being New England.

Home games: DET, MIN, GB, LAR, SEA, TEN, JAX

Away games: DET, MIN, GB, AZ, SF, HOU, IND

As for the place-finish based games, I’m not sure how the NFL determines where those are played but either 1 or 2 will be at home.

Like I said I’m willing to bet it ends up being NE, WAS, & CAR for those three

Do we think this is a favorable schedule for next year?

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Who is your favorite Bears role player of all time? Think of guys who were good for us at the time, but weren’t big names around the league. (alien.top)
 

I didn’t really know what else to call it aside from role players, I know that’s more of a basketball term but you get the point.

I’ll start with a couple:

2015: Jeremy Langford

2016: Cameron Meredith

2017: Dontrelle Inman (can’t believe he was Trubisky’s WR1 in year one lol)

Those are just to name a few. Also these players weren’t favorites of mine but does anyone else remember Chris Prosinski and Buster Skrine lol? They weren’t good for the Bears but anytime you think our secondary today is lacking, just think back to them

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Aside from the Claypool trade and the Velus pick, where has Ryan Poles really messed up? He has done really good in the first two years of his career here (alien.top)
 

When Poles came in, the defense was aging and Roquan wanted out. The offensive line was a mess, and there wasn’t much to work with aside Mooney and Fields.

Here are some of his picks from 2022 that filled needs: Kyler Gordon, Brisker (both 2nd rounders), Braxton Jones (5th rounder), and Elijah Hicks (7th rounder)

None of these guys are stars, but they’re really good players considering where we got them. Im really happy with the Braxton Jones pick he plays solid when he’s in.

As for 2023: Darnell Wright (first rounder), Gervon Dexter (2nd rounder), Tyrique Stevenson (2nd rounder), Roschon (4th rounder), Terell Smith (5th rounder).

This is only to name a few. Wright has been great so far. Dexter had an amazing game on Monday and is benefiting from the Sweat trade. Stevenson broke out the Detroit game with a pick and a good special teams play. Roschon while not perfect showed capability as a blocker on Monday. Terell Smith did good for a 5th round corner on Monday.

Poles def has the team going in the right direction. He turned it around quicker than I expected the team to get turned around. He has made mistakes but so far both of his drafts look really good. If even argue both of his drafts are better than any draft Ryan Pace had in his 6 years.

Let me know your thoughts!

“It’s not run, run, pass. That’s basically saying I want to punt.” - Peyton Manning in c/bears@nfl.community
[–] dtemp2022@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It makes sense he did that considering Gase was the OC of the 2013 Broncos who had a historically great offense, Manning threw for 5,477 yards and 55 TD’s.

And Gase was the play caller

Discussion Question- Why was Leonard Floyd not as good for the Bears as he was for the Rams and is for the Bills right now? I’m genuinely curious. in c/bears@nfl.community
[–] dtemp2022@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Fangio is the exception he’s the best overall coach that we’ve had in a minute

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Discussion Question- Why was Leonard Floyd not as good for the Bears as he was for the Rams and is for the Bills right now? I’m genuinely curious. (alien.top)
 

I was watching the Eagles-Bills game yesterday and Leonard Floyd looked really good, better than his 4 years here.

In fact his best season in Chicago was his rookie year, and even his best season here would be his worst season if you compare it to his 2 years on Rams and his 2 years on the Bills.

He was a first round pick, so it’s not like he was some late round talent that needed time to grow. Also, our coaching was good when he was here, we had Fangio for his entire tenure here except for his last season.

I don’t know enough about the game to explain why he wasn’t good on the Bears, but he has had some very noteworthy success since he left here and it’s been for 2 different teams.

Unfortunate to say that Paces first 3 first round picks for the Bears from 2015-17 didn’t stick at all with the team

There's at least a 78% chance that a 1st Round QB will bust, but sure, let's try again... in c/bears@nfl.community
[–] dtemp2022@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

This is extremely cherry picked and just looms on what it looks like today.

Jordan Love is a first year starter and I hate to say it but he’s playing better. Can’t call him a mess yet

I had to reread you calling Herbert a miss 10 times to make sure I read it correctly

Watson would’ve been a hit for the Texans if he never got into legal trouble, that wasn’t a skill issue that was off the field stuff

Jared Goff wasn’t a miss for the Rams, he was on a team that made the SB. Yeah they traded him but to say he was a bust pick is dumb and he’s playing today

RGIII isn’t a miss if he doesn’t get hurt and the coaches don’t force him to play

Does anyone remember? in c/bears@nfl.community
[–] dtemp2022@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Dude decided to follow Brandon Staley from the Bears to the Chargers, what a loyal Bears fan

Sunday Games Thread in c/bears@nfl.community
[–] dtemp2022@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I just want the #1 overall pick lol

2024 Draft Speculation in c/bears@nfl.community
[–] dtemp2022@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I’m not a Fields Stan by any means, but I do root for whoever is under center for the Bears whether it be Bagent, Trubisky, Fields whoever it is.

I’m not opposed to the idea of drafting Maye or Williams, but I’m not gonna root for a player who isn’t even on our team yet lol

Why not root for the guy we currently have till the end of the year and if we change QB’s, root for the next guy. It’s that simple. If you’re rooting for Fields to fail, then you’re just as bad as the people who would root for Caleb or Maye to do bad here just to prove a point

2024 Draft Speculation in c/bears@nfl.community
[–] dtemp2022@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don’t think there’s a near 0% chance, but either one is entirely possible. It’s too much to speculate right now even, and it doesn’t make much sense.

There are factors aside from just Fields’ play that will come into the equation like if the new HC likes a prospect more than he does Fields, then even if Fields balls out he wouldn’t stay.

I’m honestly tired of having this talk like every single day because we truthfully won’t know the answer to the question until after they hire their new coach and the season ends

2024 Draft Speculation in c/bears@nfl.community
[–] dtemp2022@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

It’ll honestly become apparent before draft day even. Let’s say they have the first pick and trade down, that just automatically tells me that they’re not going the QB route. We will probably know the answer to the question by next March.

As of right now there isn’t a right answer obviously and both opinions are valid and have their advantages and disadvantages

Spot the leader.... in c/bears@nfl.community
[–] dtemp2022@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Fangio is on the Phins I believe. Also, Getsy was a QB coach too with no play calling experience who we let call plays. Ben Johnson would be our first hire in recent memory that actually came from an OC role. Most teams hire from a coordinator role for head coaches, why the Bears decided to make QB coaches into head coaches is beyond me, they must’ve thought it would develop their QB’s which simply hasn’t happened

What was the consensus on the Eberflus hire when it first happened? in c/bears@nfl.community
[–] dtemp2022@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I agree it was a foolish hire. But, I do think that we will go offensive minded for the next hire for whatever reason we seem to alternate between the two.

I’m liking Eric Bienemy from Washington or Ben Johnson from Detroit as of right now, but I wouldn’t mind Harbaugh being our guy either.

Harbaugh is defensive minded but he knows how to build a football team and run one due to prior experience.

I’d be fine with any of the 3 candidates I listed though, but Eric Bienemy really should be a guy who Bears fans want because he’s making a 5th rounder in Sam Howell look decent as a passer and he’s doing that behind the worst o line in football

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What was the consensus on the Eberflus hire when it first happened? (alien.top)
 

I’ll be honest, I didn’t even know who Matt Eberflus was before the Bears hired him. I then saw the notification and didn’t really know what to think, but seeing that we hired a defensive minded guy for (at the time) a QB going into his second season had me confused.

I thought maybe it would work because anything was better than Nagy (at that point lol), but here we are today. I think a lot of fans didn’t like the hire at first and still don’t like it obviously.

Who did the Bears pass up on/who is someone they could’ve had if they didn’t hire Eberflus?

Sincere question: are there examples of when firing a staff, of a bottom-tier team, mid-season helped accelerate a turn-around? in c/bears@nfl.community
[–] dtemp2022@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

The 2021 Raiders weren’t really a bottom tier team, but they can be used as an example. Gruden resigned as the teams coach and they were sitting at 6-7 at a point that year.

Keep in mind all the Henry Ruggs stuff also happened that season. They got Rich Bisaccia as their interim and despite all the hardship they faced, they went 10-7 and made the playoffs.

Keeping the topic on the Raiders, they fired Josh McDaniels and with Antonio Pierce they are 2-1, 5-6 as a team. They can very well make the playoffs because the culture in that building has changed.

Firing Eberflus and Getsy likely won’t punch the Bears a playoff ticket right now considering we’re at 3-8, but it can help to get culture all together, which is more important. You don’t win football games with poor culture.

Sincere question: are there examples of when firing a staff, of a bottom-tier team, mid-season helped accelerate a turn-around? in c/bears@nfl.community
[–] dtemp2022@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

The 2021 Raiders weren’t really a bottom tier team, but they can be used as an example. Gruden resigned as the teams coach and they were sitting at 6-7 at a point that year.

Keep in mind all the Henry Ruggs stuff also happened that season. They got Rich Bisaccia as their interim and despite all the hardship they faced, they went 10-7 and made the playoffs.

Keeping the topic on the Raiders, they fired Josh McDaniels and with Antonio Pierce they are 2-1, 5-6 as a team. They can very well make the playoffs because the culture in that building has changed.

Firing Eberflus and Getsy likely won’t punch the Bears a playoff ticket right now considering we’re at 3-8, but it can help to get culture all together, which is more important. You don’t win football games with poor culture.

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After yesterdays game, Ben Johnson should be the Bears #1 target for head coach this off-season. Do what it takes to get him here. (alien.top)
 

The Lions didn’t start yesterdays game well at all. It looked like the Bears defense had their number. But despite the fact that we forced 3 turnovers on them, they scored 29 offensive points.

Johnson was able to play call 4 drives that went for touchdowns, and of those 4 3 of them happening in less than 180 seconds. That’s crazy to think of.

The Bears should hire him and let him decide if he wants to keep fields or get a different QB. He knows more about football than anyone in this sub.

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Why the Lions are good (alien.top)
 

This isn’t rocket science, but the Lions are a well coached team. The Bears were running all over them with designed runs for Fields and others in the first quarter and they immediately adjusted to them in a matter of just a quarter. Those same plays aren’t working for the Bears anymore.

The bears have had two turnovers but 0 points off of them. The Lions have had 1 with 7 points off of it and just took the ball the distance with 1:56 left.

The Bears coaching staff can’t adjust for anything, in fact if a team is beating the bears using one strategy on the first drive of the game they can just use that same strategy for the rest of the game and it’ll be enough for them to beat the bears.

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Free agency… (alien.top)
 

I’ve seen a lot of people talking about the draft, and potential HC candidates. What about free agency? From my understanding the Bears have a good amount of money to invest in the market this year. Who are your top free agents for the Bears to target? Is it possible they add a pass rusher via free agency due to a weaker draft class in that area this season?

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I’ve seen a lot about head coaching candidates, but what about defensive coordinators? I like Robert Saleh although it’s extremely unlikely he’s on the market. (alien.top)
 

Once again, I know it’s unlikely. But, if we are to fire Eberflus and go with an offensively minded guy we need to get a great defensive coordinator to ensure our defense performs.

Take a look at SB caliber teams that have had offensively minded guys as a head coach but a great defensive coordinator: 2019 49ers with Shanahan and Saleh Bengals with Taylor and Anarumo Chiefs with Reid and Spagnola

Saleh likely won’t be fired but I can see a reason for him to be fired. He picked Zach Wilson, and I’ve seen reports of the team thinking he’s a “Zach Wilson apologist” and that they’re fed up with it. Idk the truth of it but he could be on the hot seat although unlikely. Especially if they keep losing.

But, he has built great defenses under his command, such as the 49ers and Jets current defenses, he did most of the work on it considering both teams had bad defenses before he came over.

How would you feel about him being defensive coordinator for the Bears? Assuming we get an offensively minded guy but I doubt he gets fired so this is a perfect scenario for me.

List other DC candidates you’d like as well

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Who is your most improved player this far into the season? (alien.top)
 

I get that the season hasn’t gone the way many expected, but that isn’t to say that everyone on the team is having a down year. I’d say Cole Kmet is our most improved player from 2022 to 23, assuming the player was on the roster last year too.

Other people could be Khalil Herbert (when he was healthy he was playing well)

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