any mods around? what's this bullshit have to do with programming?
dingdongitsabear
absolutely. I have a list as long as my arm of irritants that are 99% just the absence of sane defaults. I'm not saying that's what's deterring people from switching over, but it's not helping either, is it?
every DE, distro, whatevs I install, I try to imagine what this looks like to a non-techie, how would a random grams deal with this... and it's not looking good.
apple has a vertically integrated tech stack and are free to focus their sinister efforts elsewhere; they don't have to dick around with 15 different DEs and 27 WMs, 50 teams pulling in 127 different directions, abandoned paths and duplicated efforts galore. just imagine where The Linux Desktop would be at if we had just one DE/WM and all devs would pull in the same direction...
I don't have the answer. it's chaos over here and out of that chaos eventually some order emerges. it's unquestionable that shit's way better than five years ago, let alone 10 or more... but it's so slow and wasteful and it pains me that I see no other option.
meanwhile this (hey, try this shit out) is the best we as users can do; I know I regarded KDE/Plasma for the longest time as something clunky and un-serious and whatnot - I couldn't have been more wrong. things that are outright deal-breakers (like the years-long refusal to implement scroll speed in Gnome) are handled beautifully over there, and then some.
that (and many other irritants) is why I switched to plasma. please try it before going back, it's way better in every regard.
sure, take it slow. they're only gonna get cheaper and if you're not compiling/building large code bases daily, they're still gonna be viable a year or two from now; same way you can today use something like a T420 without too much trouble (obv don't buy something like that, but if you stumble upon one for free, have at it).
do not compare thinkpads to ideapads (or thinkbooks or thinkpad V-series). the former are heavy-duty devices that cost thousands of $ new (and you can feel that the moment you grab one). they're built for road warriors and are meant to be used and abused for years. everything is so much better, from the build quality, easy repair and upgradeability (several generations share the same chassis, so replacing keyboards, screens, hinges, plastic covers, etc. is trivial and easily sourced) to way better keyboards, hinges, screens, etc.
the latter are cheap, drastic-plastic, deal-of-the-week future e-waste compatible only with themselves, maybe, with way worse build quality and very limited serviceability and cross-generational part compatibility.
same goes for hp elitebook vs probook, dell latitude vs vostro, and so on; there's a huge difference between enterprise-class devices vs consumer-grade.
as to CPU performance, you'll have to be the judge of what's most important to you.
you should aim at $200 max, that's way too expensive for 8th gen tech. ram and storage aren't important as those can be upgraded stupid cheap; it's not a bad idea to buy the laptop without those,
what's infinitely more important are good batteries, you didn't mention what condition the ones you get are in. if you need to replace those, good batteries aren't cheap.
I don't know any of those things, wide, narrow, high... how do I determine which I have? compared to what?
I have acknowledged that they're that, but that's not what OP asked for - they asked for a cheap setup (which the minis ain't) and they intend to run a servarr instance, which implies large storage and those are both difficult and not cheap to cram into said minis.
I don't understand the fascination of other commenters with mini-PCs, as the mini-ness was mentioned nowhere in the OP.
any used and decomissioned old office PC, any i5/i7 is way more powerful than you'll need for that setup. you get everything you need right in the box and you can cram it full with cheap RAM and hard disks. you get to repurpose something that's useless as a desktop workstation and not buy more future e-waste.
yes, the mini-PCs and the Rpis are more power efficient, but the operating costs of a $30-50 PC don't come close to the price of buying one of these mini-things, not to mention - figuring out how to run large hard disks with it.
maybe there's some way to filter out the stepmothers with the stepfathers on the stepladders...?
thanks. I'm trying to find a cheap 2nd hand device that can run pmOS and has 8 GB RAM and supports USB to DP/HDMI, was hoping this one was on the list.
jellyfin's android app has the cast functionality built-in, it connects to jellyfin-mpv-shim. you select the video from the app and press play and that's it - it plays on the remote device. you can then pause, ff/rewind, change subs, etc., from the android app.
as to youtube videos, select video in newpipe, share to allcast, allcast connects to macast, which uses yt-dl to play the video via mpv. you can then control the playback (stop, skip, etc) from allcast.
this all works on a full-featured desktop without problems; I'd like to strip everything but the bare necessities needed to run mpv.