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Here's a different take, as a game dev:

Epic actual employs quite a few people who work with Linux. The Unreal engine (and even, to a certain degree, editor) has native support for Linux.

The reasons they're not including Linux support in their store front are two fold:

1. There aren't enough pure Linux users to matter, and whatever percentage of their userbase would use Linux isn't going to be large enough to make a dent^[1]^.

2. The only serious Linux user base in gaming relates to the Steam Deck, a product that pushes a rival (and the dominant) store front.

While Valve's move to push Linux gaming is brilliant for us gamers, it also kind of cements us in their camp.

There is absolutely no reason for Epic to support Linux in anyway, and it absolutely supports their bottom line to attack it.

And, no, it isn't because of any David v. Goliath tale of a little guy standing up to a brute: it's because a fellow giant has decided to ally itself with Linux, and all of us have - invariably - been shuffled into their camp.

I think the Epic Games Store has a place in this world as a niche storefront with limited visibility but higher access to sales profits as a result of that.

They'll never grow to the size of Steam, and that's okay. The largest storefront in the world supports Linux not just on its platform, but by developing tools for everyone that makes Linux gaming viable. That is enough, IMO.

~[1] Edit: I was throwing around a made up 0.1% number earlier to indicate what I thought the number'd be - wasn't meant to be factual, and was poorly worded, so I removed that.~

I'm very much with you.

Never understood why Plex, a once open source fork of XBMC, was seen as a positive thing when they switched to the closed source, SaaS model.

I also don't understand the love for Tailscale when Wireguard exists.

But, anyway, the same people who are reacting shocked to Plex can be shocked when Tailscale does the same.

They'll probably hop on Discord to vent their frustrations before there, too, they find themselves spurred by a company with no clear plan on monetization finding out that offering hosted services at a yearly loss can only exist for so long.

Open source isn't just about idealogy, it's about longevity for software that can't be clearly monetized - harken back to "amazing" services like Keybase that worked great for a few years until their VCs started asking for return of investment.

Use the shit that was made for you, not to exploit you. And if that shit isn't up to your standard, learn to contribute, or just enjoy the corporate graveyard in which you choose to live.

(so sorry for the pseudo-unhinged rant, but between the recent Win11, Discord controversies - and now, this - I'm just fed up with all the shocked_pikachu.jpg posts I'm seeing on Lemmy)

But as far as I can remember, you can't administer the rooms in a space as one. Like you need to be invited into each separate room.

Nope, again - I don't understand who told you this. When you're creating a room in Matrix you can make it either public, invite only, or only joinable via membership in a specific space.

Here's a screenshot of the room security interface:

Not saying that you couldn't add that, I'm saying they don't seem to want to "do what discord did". Which is a bummer since the success of discord clearly shows what would be needed.

You are correct in that they "don't want to do what discord this": recently (and you can see this in their apps like EleX) they've transitioned to looking and acting more like modern mobile chat apps like Signal/WhatsApp/Telegram - a decision I'm assuming they've made as most of their funding comes from people who want a replacement for those apps and not Discord.

Regardless, just using a Discord-like client (e.g. Commet) is enough to get the experience you want.

Yeah, all good points - especially the stuff relating to stickers (also, custom emojis).

Still, I'm hoping element gets their shit together and improves the default element apps (also brings Web/Desktop up to par with Mobile).

There's only one standard, it has no forks. The discussion is about a filtering feature.

A lot of people don't seem to respect spaces and communities - from my perspective it looks like the devs are currently pivoting to make the official client look and act more like Telegram/Signal/WhatsApp than Discord/IRC.

Your issue is that the dev team of EleX not prioritizing a feature you want.

If anything, this is a strength of an open source ecosystem: someone who agrees with you was able to, months ago, setup a fork that appeals to your work flow.

Try that with Discord, next time!

I also hadn't used it in a while - used to be very rough around the edges.

Just installed it on my phone, it's actually pretty usable now!

If you like Discord's UI, there is a new Matrix client being developed - called Commet.Chat - that is trying to look and feel like Discord.

Might be worth checking out!

It does have that.

A "server" in Matrix is a space. A chat channel is called a room. A space can hold as many rooms as you want.

Fun fact, unlike Discord, a space can even hold other spaces in it!

SchildiChat Next is a mini-fork of Element X with proper spaces support (and some other nice UI additions).

I say mini-fork as it's basically just EleX with some UI patches - so it follows EleX actively.

Matrix doesn't have multiple standards, it only has the one? Certain servers expose older API endpoints for backwards compatibility with old clients, but that's all. The spec is standard and relatively stable.

Likewise, it is very much a federated protocol - dunno where you got the idea that it isn't.

But, yeah, spec changes do take a while to get accepted/implemented.

QR code login is technically out, you just need to be running your own homeserver (and MAS) to use it.

But, yeah, exciting to finally have that.