cyclohexane

It always pains me how prevalent education systems hinder curiosity and our natural love to learn.

What would I rather, collect garbage, or let garbage pile up in my house?

Probably I'll collect garbage.

And since I'm doing it, might as well do cooperate with a couple members of my community and clean up the whole thing.

Would I rather my house pile in shit or learn plumbing? Probably the latter. And then when my neighbor is having plumbing issues, I'll give 'em a hand.

And not everyone has to do this. My neighbor and I decide he'll take the garbage I'll take the plumbing. Or maybe we both learn both, and just switch.

You seem to forget that these things were born out of a need anyways. There's nothing stopping people from doing what they need to do to fulfill their community's needs.

The idea is that these socioeconomic orders are global. Capitalism today is global. Even if a country today tries to do not-capitalism, it still must engage in the capitalist sphere, doing trade with them, using money system, debt, and producing purely for the purpose of selling. These are aspects of capitalism we stuck with until the global order isn't capitalism.

So communism would not come about unless it is global. In which case the question of "other countries" would not apply. You can assume that for whatever reason, a breakaway bunch decide to revert back to capitalism, but that would not go well. Why? Why would anyone whose needs are fully met and their entire time is only spent doing things for their own interests and community decide "I actually wish I had to give most my time to a capitalist in exchange for money that allows me to buy my needs"? For one, money wouldn't exist in communism, so that part would not even appeal you. Capitalism only has the upper hand because it is already the global system. Once it is overthrown, it is the reverse.

Obviously a society will put guards to deal with lunatics wanting to destroy society for ideological reasons (trying to restore capitalism). It would be in their interest to do so.

I hope I answered your question. Unless your question was "how do we prevent resistance during the revolution / transition"?

That was honestly what I was trying, but I felt myself blindly following tutorials without understanding what any of those components are or doing. And searching individual terms was not good enough. The concepts seem intertwined, and searching the web only gave me surface level explanations that didn't cut it.

There's no utopian vision advocated for by Communist philosophers. They talk exactly about how this would come through. So yes, they speak about it as an achievable and feasible thing.

There's no utopian vision advocated for by Communist philosophers. They talk exactly about how this would come through. So yes, they speak about it as an achievable and feasible thing.

You continue to dive deeper and deeper into this L. You sure you wanna do this?

Even the US, despite its heavy bias, admits how great scientific research in the USSR was.

https://scholarlycommons.law.wlu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1046&context=powellspeeches

It was not uncovered until much later that this scientific research was in fact a hoax to promote General Motors' business.

This is very easily verified with a web search. I would be happy to guide you to specific sources and readings as well.

You've gotta try reading beyond 6th grade level fiction before judging books on socio-economics.

That's false. There's no state in communism. See Karl Marx or any Communist writer on this.

They are not joking. You can see them continuing here: https://lemm.ee/comment/3563759

And this isn't whataboutism (not that it matters). The first commenter ridiculed socialism by using a hypothetical scenario. The second commenter showed with evidence this hypothetical scenario is actually real under capitalism.