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[–] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago

If AWS was open source, you wouldn't be protected from a similar incident. You're primarily using them for servers and infrastructure.

[–] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Idc about open source purism personally. I'm okay with open source projects making it difficult for corporate users to make profit and contribute nothing back.

It's open source enough for me. The code is open, contributions are accepted, forking is doable. That's what matters.

[–] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 34 points 2 years ago (9 children)

Wayland isn't to blame for duplicate effort. Instead of 4 different efforts doing the same thing, they can collaborate to build a common base. Heck, wlroots is exactly that.

There's a ton of duplicated work in Linux ecosystem. Just think about every new distro coming out doing the same things other distros did. Just think about all those package managers on different distros. They do almost the same thing. Do they need to have codebases that share nothing? No. But they don't care. They rather duplicate effort. They chose this.

[–] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 18 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Sadly it will never. The average consumer does not care to do their own research, and will always fall for options with a marketing budget, even when FOSS options are similar or better quality. Now consider that often times (not always), FOSS is not up to the same quality.

Disclaimer: I always use FOSS when I can, even when lower quality.

[–] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 27 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I agree it's the BSD license. That's what I mean. It's a license that places no restriction on corporate use without contribution.

[–] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

Unfortunately not enough. It still allows corporate use with limited restrictions. Only derivative work that gets distributed must be open sourced, and even then, they can choose to provide source only to those requesting it in inconvenient ways (ex: come pick up the flash drive from our office).

For example, android does not require open sourcing, despite GPL'd Linux, but because it's not derivative work.

[–] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 54 points 2 years ago (4 children)

And yet it is still a prevalent idea in FOSS that open sourcing without restrictions on corporate use will karma back to you positively somehow.

Non-corporate FOSS should be way more popular.

[–] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

That's a different kind of plumbing than what I was talking about, and I only simplified it for the case of an example. There's nothing preventing people to organize into a complex team of plumbing specialists, just like they would learn advanced engineering or medicine, and build chemical plants and factories or hospitals. Again, it would still be driven by need. If your need drives you to be an individual plumber for suburban homes, it can also drive you to be part of a specialist plumbing team in a large city.

[–] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm very happy to see you're curious, and would love to answer your questions. Thank you for being open minded! :)

To get there, Communists think that the working class should take power, political power (that's what they call dictatorship of the proletariat) and control of the means of production. Nowadays, those are both controlled by the capitalist ruling class (directly and indirectly). If the working class controlled the means of production, that means they can operate it for their own needs instead of for profit.

You're probably thinking "well that doesn't explain how it actually happens". You're right. The exact mechanism for the working class reaching power is something I've admittedly studied a lot less, and given their Communists are yet to succeed with that, I imagine the theories there aren't complete.

The essential idea, though, is that the working class needs to become class conscious. In other words, aware of... Basically what we've been talking about. How capitalism is and how the different classes operate within the realm of capitalism. Then, the working class must organize together as a United force, and seek to overthrow the capitalist class.

In an ideal world, this would be pretty easy. Workers are the core of the economy, so workers could simply stop working or just operate their factories as they want.

In reality, things aren't as smooth. There will always be unconvinced workers. There will be police that, if you take over your workplace, they'll violently put you back in your place. This is something we've seen before in history. This is where things could get violent and bloody. The working class must be prepared to fight back.

Please let me know if this answers your question.

[–] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

Absolutely, and I'll do it with you.

[–] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Why would a commune not have electronics? I think they would.

[–] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago

Do whatever fulfills your wants and needs and you're already doing good.

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