ctkatz

joined 2 years ago
[–] ctkatz@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

uncommitted barely got more of a percentage of the vote than they normally do. is it "political suicide" because they got more than 100k votes? for every vote uncommitted got, biden got 6. if 100,000 people voted in the primary and we had the same vote distribution, uncommitted would have 13,000 votes.

that's not political suicide. political suicide would be if uncommitted got enough of a threshold to win delegates from the statewide pool. as it ended up last night, they only pulled 2 delegates out of 117 on offer, those 2 coming from one congressional district.

people who are pushing that story are trying to sew democratic chaos and discontent when the democratic party is very much in array.

[–] ctkatz@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

either that or putting his thumb on scale to get another trump presidency so that he can retire with trump in office.

[–] ctkatz@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 year ago (6 children)

you only need 4 to hear the case, and I'm pretty sure I know who the 4 are.

they're taking the case, not to reverse the decision but to stall the cases, hopefully past the election where trump would win and moot out these cases.

and in that situation, watch them rule 9-0 after trump is sworn in that the immunity trump says he has doesn't exist.

[–] ctkatz@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

you continue to assume that all of those uncommitted voters will be not biden voters in november and you assume that all of the haley voters will vote for trump. you are also assuming that everyone who voted in the primary are the total number of people who will be voting in november.

I'm not the one who doesn't understand how voting works here.

[–] ctkatz@lemmy.ml 43 points 1 year ago (3 children)

fuck him. he should resign from the senate completely.

sincerely, lifetime kentucky resident

[–] ctkatz@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (5 children)

is it really?

if that's what you need to do to console yourselves after getting shellacked last night, go ahead.

that's 2 delegates out of 117 on offer.

people who are concerned about how biden is handling gaza were always going to be heard because that's how biden rolls. nothing has changed in this regard. and if those are the only 2 delegates who can uncommitted out of almost 2000 who officially vote for the candidate and set the convention schedule it's virtually nothing.

[–] ctkatz@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

ignoring what results?

biden beat uncommitted 6 to 1.

uncommitted finished slightly higher than what uncommitted normally runs.

what you have in this thread are people trying to convince themselves that barely getting more of a percentage of the vote that uncommitted normally gets is a huge statement because a lot of people voted for their issue, while totally ignoring the number of people who voted overall and the other reasons why people would vote uncommitted.

[–] ctkatz@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

sure they will. but a lot won't. you still don't know how many. and you are absolutely fooling yourself if you believe that all of those uncommitted people are going to be not biden voters.

[–] ctkatz@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

rural areas generally have lower levels of education and are conservative in general.

christian nationalism thrives when there is no critical thinking and long time traditions are enforced.

it's not a surprise. it's also not a coincidence these are the same people who will pull out a map of how counties voted in 2016 or 2020 and try to convince you that the nation is a sea of red.

[–] ctkatz@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

the democratic primary was uncontested. the republican primary technically speaking is still being contested. there is no reasonable incentive for a democratic primary voter to turn out. the fact that over 800k votes were cast in a one man race says a whole lot about democratic energy.

being obtuse is trying to say that being outvoted 6:1 on a issue that is undefined is a historic event. biden's handling of gaza is one reason to vote uncommitted. but so is being concerned about biden's age. but so is joe biden not being bernie sanders.

and by the way, you have no idea how many people who voted for haley or republican uncommitted (or democratic uncommitted for that matter) will end up voting for biden in november. to assume that every republican primary voter is going to be a guaranteed trump vote and every uncommitted democratic primary voter is a guaranteed not biden voter is stupid.

but here's what we did find out last night. the majority of democratic primary voters last night don't have an issue with the way biden is handling things. compared with other primaries this protest movement vote made no impact. now if you need to tell yourselves 100k voters means something to ease the disappointment, go right ahead. just know the actual results don't back you up.

[–] ctkatz@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (5 children)

for every 1 vote uncommitted got, biden got 6.

michigan opened up more opportunities to go vote so more people voted. that was a historic vote the same way trump got the second most votes in a presidential election and still lost by 7 million. uncommitted ended up getting a few more points than they normally get. that's not historic.

view more: ‹ prev next ›