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can't wait for every president to continue committing horrific atrocities and crimes against humanity while they literally all get impeached (but never ever fucking convicted) over stupid bullshit no one cares about

The outer walls of the WTC buildings were pretty much mostly glass, right? Whereas the Pentagon is supposed to be fortified.

Russia sucks right now, but if you think they are in anyway responsible for even a minuscule fraction of the bloodshed that the US has spilled all over the world, then your brain has been utterly broken by western news coverage of the Ukraine war.

As for China? What the fuck? China hasn't been at war in decades. The only way you could possibly believe China is comparable to the US is if you've hooked yourself up to an IV drip of state department atrocity propaganda. Either that or you're just a fucking racist.

It's baffling that you libs expect us to believe you when you claim to hate the US while you simultaneously uncritically parrot everything the US says about its state enemies.

lmao, I hadn't considered what impact 9/11 was going to have on federation until just now

If lemm.ee doesn't finally defederate from us over this thread, then I don't think they ever will.

My interpretation of these people is that they actually don't give a shit about anyone who died in the attacks. They pretend to, but what they're really mad about is the fact that it was a successful attack on a widely recognized symbol of United States hegemony.

Despite having been around the entire time, to this day I still have no earthly idea what the fuck was with all of the insufferable, terminally online drama that originated on the discord lifeboat.

Does that server still even exist? There was a sizable group of deeply unserious CTH refugees who had somehow grown to prefer the lifeboat discord over chapo.chat's format, so they just decided to just stay there after this site opened. I recall they eventually changed their discord server name and elected new mods to differentiate themselves as a separate community from us, but that's the last I ever heard about them.

Regular prole scrollers won't get "stalin is good because he's handsome" even though we might have a taste for edgier humor

You mean this? That's exactly the kind of thing I was getting at when I talked about the DPRK. That's not edgy humor, we think Stalin was good because he and the USSR saved the world from fascism.

Many of us do also believe he was handsome, but it's certainly much easier to find someone handsome when you already like them for other reasons.

I had already read that comment.

Remember how t_d was a tongue in cheek in-joke in the beginning until it grew and actually drew in users that actually were all in with the cult without a hint of self awareness and became what you described?

I'm not sure what you're even referring to. Could you please point out what exactly the in joke is on Hexbear that you're criticizing?

Can you point out the edginess for us, specifically? It looks to me like you have some preconceived notions about actual socialist countries having committed irredeemable atrocities, and thus you're dumbfounded as to why a very inclusive leftist forum like ours would support them. It looks like the conclusion you've reached to square this contradiction is that our support for these countries is not genuine, and that our outward admiration for them is just us trying to offend people.

But that conclusion couldn't be more off base. Our support for these countries is genuine. Instead you should look more closely at your preconceived notions of these countries, because that's the faulty premise at work here. If you are from an type country, then your perspective on this has been utterly warped by the ongoing century long atrocity propaganda campaign that the west has wrought against socialist countries.

That goes double for the DPRK specifically. Everything you hear about that country in mainstream western news isn't just severely biased, it's more often than not outright lies. During the Korean War, the United States' horrific bombing campaign destroyed literally every building more than one story tall in the entirety of the DPRK. The United States literally killed off a double digit percentage of their population. Then the US and the rest of "the international community" (see the emoji above), worked tirelessly to economically cripple the DPRK with sanctions to halt their recovery from the war. It's so fucked that I can't help but laugh when western liberals are so self unaware that they wonder why the DPRK hates the US so much and why they're putting so much effort into building a stockpile of nuclear weapons.

If I missed the mark here, then I'm not sure what else you think is r/the_donald like about us besides the fact that we can be crass and rude at times.

That's not exactly something someone does on their own

Comrades, are pinned posts authoritarian?

Unfortunately yes. Though it was much more common early in the site's history way before most lemmies even existed.

Hexbear is a left unity forum that began as a successor site to r/chapotraphouse after the reddit admins banned it. The short version of why we got banned from reddit is that we outwardly celebrated John Brown's attempted slave uprising at Harpers Ferry in 1859. We adopted the slogan "kill all slave owners" in honor of his memory. Somehow, the ghouls on the reddit admin team took this to mean a serious incitement to violence. I suppose their sense of linear time was just broken or something. Who can understand the mind of a liberal, after all?

To this day, the page for r/chapotraphouse says we were banned for "promoting hate". That's a massive farce considering we were one of the most absolutely inclusive spaces on reddit. We'd make anyone feel welcome there so long as they weren't a small business tyrant, a landleech, a racist, a sex pest, a fascist, or queerphobic.

One of the biggest demographics in the r/chapotraphouse userbase was transgender people, and that has remained the case on Hexbear. So we take transphobia extremely seriously here given how it is currently one of the safest spaces on the entire internet for trans people to hang out without worry of being targeted for harassment.

r/chapotraphouse's ban was a very high profile event on reddit when it happened. Previously the admins had chipped away at the sub in an attempt to stop its massive, rapid growth in user count. They removed our ability to ping users, and they quarantined us. At one point they even sacked our entire mod team and installed hand picked replacements. Despite that, we continued to grow. The admins were clearly afraid of the backlash that would come with an outright ban, so they also banned the empty husk of r/the_donald in order to pretend it was a "both sides are too extreme" type decision. That never held water considering r/the_donald was already dead after its userbase had moved to a reddit clone called thedonald.win. It was clear that the kill all slave owners thing was what ended up being the last straw.

Our subreddit had made a lot of enemies on reddit during the years it was active. So many that once this site started up a couple months after the ban, we experienced nearly daily raids from places like KiwiFarms and the transphobic harassment discords I mentioned. Ultimately we got rid of the downvote button because transphobic users abused it in order to anonymously express disapproval at the existence of trans people. Joke was on them in that they weren't aware that votes are not necessarily anonymous on lemmy.

Once the raiders got bored, and once we banned anyone who used the downvote button that way, things became pretty stable for us up until we finally federated. Now we're just trying to figure out how to balance federation with the maintenance of the same safe space we had built before.