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[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 33 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Their argument is that the Voice isn't even something good. It doesn't give Indigenous people any powers they didn't already have, and the Voice can be ignored just as easily as the advice of the royal commission into Aboriginal deaths in custody recently was. Interview with the Black Peoples Union describes in better detail.

But even if that weren't the case and they did think it wasn't worthless symbolism, successful collective bargaining doesn't just settle for every first offer. So I don't know why you're claiming it's a bad strategy, it's how unions have won important gains for workers. It's a strategy that has been historically shown to work when applied correctly.

[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

That isn't a useful definition of racism. It's sounds alright, although it's ultimately idealistic, it doesn't hold up when applying to material circumstances.

As for why people think having different rules for different groups is good, I think one of the simplest ways to sum it up is: Equality of treatment will not give equality of outcome until there is already equality of conditions. Treating all people the same isn't fair in the real world.

As a thought-experiment to demonstrate: If we have two people, one has $200 savings after rent and the other has $10,000,000, you can't make them more equal or make the money more distributed by treating them the same: if society wants to reduce poverty (which is obviously a good thing for society, to have less people in poverty), it makes some sense to supply the poorer of the two with money, but it makes no sense to supply the richer: they already have more money than 90% of people! There isn't a moral or ethical benefit in giving them more money, they don't need the money as much as others do, it's not how to achieve fairness or equality.

The generalised point of that being, if a group is disadvantaged and the status quo is keeping them disadvantaged, solving that will require special treatment. Treating Indigenous people the same way as always just keeps the systemic racist status quo, and to solve that, the Government will inevitably have to treat Indigenous people differently. That's a consequence of trying to create a more equal outcome in an unequal environment.

The same goes for other types of disadvantage, of course. I am obviously not trying to imply that all people who aren't indigenous have all the advantage they need! Ultimately, everyone who is not a mega-multi-millionaire is disadvantaged, but we can't fix that all in one change. We have to start somewhere.

[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

No, it is not just racism. There would have been an element of that, but it's certainly far from the main reason. That idea is contradicted by the facts that a very significant portion of Indigenous people and Indigenous activists voted against it.

Linking to this useful post, explaining why various progressive groups were against it.

[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

You've actually explained one of the reasons many Indigenous people rejected this: it is just feedback that could simply be ignored by the Senate. That's powerless, and we've seen from royal commissions into Aboriginal deaths in custody that the feedback does get ignored. Why accept such a bad deal, pretending it's a victory or progress?

The Black Peoples Union interview with ABC explains why they took the 'no' position.

[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Relevant: the Black Peoples Union position on the referendum (interview on ABC).

An aggregation of written statements collected from socialist, anarchist and radical Indigenous groups, showing the diversity of thought on the matter: http://old.reddit.com/r/AustralianSocialism/comments/161r8r1/megathread_of_leftist_statements_on_the_voice/

(PS: don't just take all the 'yes' and 'no' summaries in that list at face value, a couple of them are misinterpretations or oversimplications)

[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago

If I browsed these types of joke-sharing communities more often, I'd petition community mods to create a rule against it. I don't think that's too harsh.

[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

Stop doing physics! Motion was not meant to be analysed.

convert that speed from nautical miles to miles please

let me calculate the snap, crackle and pop of that missile

Statements dreamed up by the utterly insane.

[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

It's a reference to the original meme. The entire image is tongue-in-cheek.

[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

I didn't. Even when I lived an hour away from my job, it was about as fast by train as driving, and I could spend that time productively or relaxing instead of concentrating on.

If it takes twice as long without a car, that's a problem that should be solved!

[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 17 points 2 years ago

I've done that. You just bring something appropriate to carry it in.

Although now that I live closer to a smaller grocer, I just walk twice.

[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 142 points 2 years ago (3 children)

pls no more punchlines in the title!

[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

A beautiful slick theme, and Xonotic in the launchpad. This desktop looks like a good time!

I would personally try and make the window panels darker to match all the parts seen in the first image.

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