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[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

How will this allow trump and Republican party filth into office?

[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Well, you'll be glad to learn there is no 4chan in that image at all, unlike almost every single post on /c/greentext.

[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

One of the most important things to understand about political violence is that the state (in this case, the US law enforcement) have a monopoly on legitimate violence. We just saw it today: the SS can legally kill the assassin with no problem, and of course that makes sense. But the point is that political violence against the state, as opposed to fringe groups like neo-Nazis, is hugely asymmetrical. The state doesn't face repression when they commit violence, for obvious reasons.

So political violence against the state (such as its electoral system and the candidates) is foolish and ineffective. An escalation, yes! It's an ineffective strategy, as we saw back around the late 1800s and early 1900s.

[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Taken as an obvious parallel with the attempted assassination of Trump, political violence in America is very clearly a bad thing at this point.

But trying to stop looming fascism through random political violence is like trying to stop a bear attack by covering yourself in steak sauce.

In my opinion, the issue isn't that it was political violence, but it was (as you said) random political violence. Thoughtless and extreme political violence. What happens if Trump was assassinated? I propose that Trump would be replaced by a more competent career politician, more appealing to capital and to the closer of the Democrats. I think Trump is like Hitler in that they're somewhat of outsiders to politics who understand popularity more than pragmatism, related to that first answer you gave. There's no point to just cutting off the head of the hydra, the failed tactic of propaganda of the deed already demonstrated that after killing a lot of presidents, kings and police chiefs. The problem with the Republican Party is systematic, not that it's being headed by Trump. (obviously this all may not be the worldview of the would-be assassin, I'm just explaining this from a non-Republican perspective)

But political violence as a broad umbrella goes well beyond this example and there's not really any reason to leave it until it's too late. I think it's perfectly appropriate to have a Battle of Cable Street before the fascists get elected, and it (along with later '43 Group violence) worked. The BUF deteriorated due to forceful repression by ex-military antifascists. These are not just random acts of violence, but intentional, tactical violent resistance and then violent suppression of fascist movements. Non-violent methods are generally preferred by anti-fascists today for good reasons (easier to get mass involvement, more sustainable, etc.), but violent actions are a legitimate and effective part of the arsenal against fascism when used appropriately. Attempting an assassination of a state figurehead is not that.

[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This was interesting. I know two of the small communist sites I use are hosted on these services so it's good to know how stable the ground is.

[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

wow the /c/greentext community has posts that remind you of 4chan

:0

[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

If it has four legs, they're gonna try and kill it.

[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Maybe I can grift a nice bounty developing AR glasses which patch out all the brands on clothes and places in real-time.

[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

>do community service

>get sentenced to community service

Great system.

[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ah, that sucks to hear about.

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