chatokun

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[–] chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Er... Are you saying that scientists won't classify Earth as a Terrestrial Planet? Because they do.. The next 4 are Jovian Planets, while others including Asteroids are called Minor Planets.

If you check the wiki article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrestrial_planet you'll notice some scientists consider Earth's Moon, plus Io and Europa terrestrial planets as well.

I don't see how it would be a demotion. Pluto is a planet, but not one of the terrestrial or Jovian Planets, but instead a minor planet, a dwarf planet. The people who insist on the 9 or 8 planets is less scientists and more about what we teach as the main planets in the solar system to like kids and such.

I'm a bit confused on your idea of scientists. They love being more specific about definitions, as do many other technical fields. Ask medicals scientists about Cancer or heart disease and they'll explain they're very broad terms that have many subcategories and differences, which is why there isn't 1 easy cure. Similarly, "the common cold" is just a description of symptoms carried out by a number of different viruses from different families that our bodies just tend to react to in the same way, which is why a cure for the common cold is a ridiculous thing to hope for.

These definitions aren't usually for scientists, but instead generalizations the public settle on because remembering everything would be too much for people who aren't interested or involved.

[–] chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago (5 children)

You probably think no one wants to hear it when they disagree, but more likely what works for you doesn't work for everyone. As the person replying to you exemplified. There isn't a one trick for everyone in these kinda of things, and anyone who claims there is is either ignorant or scamming.

[–] chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 months ago

Bunch of Klansmen(some who knew Ron Paul and one of those started Stormfront) really overestimated themselves, yeah. They got caught before they even left the US kinda hilariously.

[–] chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 months ago

Now with flavor!

[–] chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Well, there was Operation Red Dog by 13 (3 being agents so really more like 9-10) people who tried to take over Dominica and make it a white ethnostate...

[–] chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Futurama got me out of a cult by making fun of the moving goal posts of the missing link. I always liked science before that, but probably because the religion was so against it I kinda avoided discussing evolution, and a lot of the rest of at least basic science could be rationalized or twisted to kinda agree.

I personally at the time had no issues with the age of the Earth(was told the 7 days were metaphorical and the incorrect orders wasn't really discussed), didn't have any issues believing in dinosaurs (there was iirc some argument that God used them to prepare the earth and intentionally had em die out) and other stuff, plus they tried to use stuff like how much Earth is in a "perfect" distance from the sun.

All that aside, human evolution can't work even with some of the creation myth being metaphors, because said cult also used the Adam and Eve story to justify why God permits evil. If that is just a metaphor, then the problem of evil became too pronounced.

If you want to know the argument I was sorta ok with at the time, it was basically this: Satan convincing humans to disobey God basically put the challenge that humanity didn't need God and can rule themselves. While several thousand years of allowing atrocities seems long, in the age of the Earth (and theoretically, God) it isn't much time at all, and the belief God would resurrect all those deserving meant to me at the time that at max 100 years of suffering would be eventually forgotten as we lived eternally after the resurrection (another belief of the cult).

For me, evolution being more accurate broke me out of that logic error, and Futurama was the delivery method that got through the standard mental defenses.

[–] chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago

It has two teeth like things and usually a barely noticeable "button" to press to release.

[–] chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 months ago

For probably some obvious reasons I don't believe in the idea of a benevolent omniscient and omnipotent God. However, a God or Gods that are scientists observing us as an experiment I could completely believe.

"Hey guys, look what the apes are up to in this little spiral galaxy over here!"

[–] chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Man, all you had to say is "ah, never heard of him" or "ah, nice to know" or something but here you are fighting with everyone. Well, I guess it's entertaining for some.

[–] chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com -4 points 2 months ago

You're welcome!

[–] chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 2 months ago (5 children)

People have been removed/kicked from contests/subreddits iirc, and that could also mean being graded unfairly, or judged unfairly in a number of ways that could impact them financially if others believe the accusations. I'm not going to make a call on which is worse, but I don't think one is so obviously worse than the other.

[–] chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago

Haiti (and other colonies) raises an eyebrow.

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