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Honestly today, just like any other ordinary day, and for no particular reason more than any other: the greater hive mind woke up and demonstrated it's first entire federated thought.

Ipso ergo beans. In every sort form and flavour.

Normally not a comment I'd apply wordy science too, but let's see if I can do better than an upvote. Because this is exactly what I can't let go lately.

https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1367-2630/18/1/013029/pdf

Authorship of paper is 2016, and we're always talking about larger populations than CEOs, so there is going to be 0 scientific rigor that can be applied to any study.

Still given the perspective of social behavior being about the product of advocates/bigots on any platform; where are the good, non rent seeking social media CEOs? The standard bad behavior of social networks is always around the issue of monetization, the first wave of 'well meaning' people have been replaced with a mandate for profit and a limited playbook. The social contagion was taking buyouts, now it's turning screws to users.

Weirdly Zuckerberg looks like a model citizen, he's still playing the growth game.

I think long term someone will come up with something. How hostile the community they arrive to?

Entirely up to how well we remember how it went the last time.

I'm not directly on instance, and won't participate beyond pointing out there's plenty of ways to subvert log by IP services.

I don't know what the right model is, but I'm not sure going propritiary for the solution solves the issue. If anything this is more an open call to FOSS devs about specific tools needed, because otherwise I think you're fighting a losing battle to purity testing about whom you represent.

Just food for thought.

Ahh always nice to revisit my first dose of propaganda.

I would have downloaded a car if I could have.

The most wonderful part of this, for the unfortunately uncoordinated like me:

scrolling and accidently clicking a random card is now always a random post and not an ad launching a browser window I immediately close and curse.

It's amazing how bad it got for awhile out there.

The idea is to remove profit motive, and distribute the actual costs to the users or admins.

Same way as any enthusiast could have run their own BBS back in the day. The perk now is they're linked together.

I would be shocked if it stays like that forever everywhere, but since the early days there's generally been some way to eat the cost.

Activist judge gets thrown around a lot, but if the shoe fits....

I think this is just the leading edge unless folks are lining up to replace moderators in most communities.

Systems tend to fail slowly, and then all at once.

Most fediverse denizens have noticed how sane and measured the dialogue is, which is entirely a product of the audience who is here right now. But everyone's got a threshold, whether Reddit loses everyone or not isn't relevant if they couldn't be profitable with all of us. There's a death spiral coming, and if there's anything left Reddit will have to functionally change.

Easiest to think of Reddit as a party grinding on too long and starting to get rowdier, and the bouncers just quit.

It keeps them from participating by demoting them to the kids table, but you're still in a glass house to some extent.

I think this is the right answer, but the structure is going to require some amount of frequent drama just like this every time. You can keep an open federation policy until proven malicious, or you can verify partners, but I don't see the way around discussions.

So I didn't make an account here for precisely this reason, I'm not really at risk of being targeted or triggered, so at the 'edge' of your community I can at least try to knock down some of the BS.

I have a feeling this is where the 'eternal vigilance' is going to be needed.

The trolls are gonna troll.

Just keeping them out of your discussions may reduce the noise, but it doesn't stop them from conglomerating on the platform. Pointing out where they come to play feels like the only way to separate the good actors from bad at an instance level so they don't wander in.

In the days before Reddit 'won' you used to be able to find tons of niche sites/boards cultivating smaller audiences. Beer advocate/rate beer, headfi and whatever the latest splinter was there in the audiophile community both come to mind. There's generally more division by which each might find more 'aligned' or maybe their friends are on one first.

I don't know if it's possible to predict, social dynamics are weird and this is going to be new for a giant segment of the audience.