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[–] bugsmith@programming.dev 7 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Why did hexbear defederate from this instance?

[–] bugsmith@programming.dev 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] bugsmith@programming.dev 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's not even that these evangelizers think we should all be using the same browser. It's that there are currently only two realistic choices: Chrome (and it's derivatives) and Firefox (and it's derivatives). There is safari too, of course, but it hardly compares to either in it's current state.

Given those two choices, only one of them is in support of the open web. The other is literally trying to add DRM to the web.

As to your first point: I agree that here it may be preaching to the choir and that we all get it. But it has such a small marketshare, I'm not sure it is good for those encouraging it to be quitened.

[–] bugsmith@programming.dev 12 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I get it with the others, but given what Google is currently trying to do with Chrome and the open web, I think the Firefox evangelism is the least sinful of these by far. Or maybe I just became part of the problem.

[–] bugsmith@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago

Who are you with? I get 150 symmetrical for £25 with Swish.

[–] bugsmith@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago

I make this all the time. An absolute staple of our weeknights.

[–] bugsmith@programming.dev 1 points 2 years ago

It doesn't need to be an authoritarian government or an evil government as such.

It would just need to be a govermt that doesn't prioritize fairness and egalitarianism above all.

If the people dishing out the housing have biases and they're not favourable to you, you're stuck.

At least in the existing system you have the ability to progress and determine your quality of living to some degree.

I don't think our current system is good by the way. I just don't think state owned housing is the right medicine. Not unless we can find a way to instate benevolent dictators.

[–] bugsmith@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago

It's that's fine that you've got some examples of features that are more powerful in JB products. It would be a great shame if such a heavy and reasonably expensive program didn't.

But I'm not arguing that VS Code is better or worse. I'm arguing that it is comparable (on the sense that it is worth of comparison). Which it is.

I agree that JB's search is fantastic. Unmatched perhaps. All of that indexing it does when you open a project really pays off.

But you can get a lot of JB's functionality in VS Code. You can get a very good code inspection in several languages, Python being the premier example. You can also get excellent docker integration, excellent linting, a reasonable search and replace across all files, and a top notch debugging experience for some languages (Python being the premier example again).

Sure JB products do some of that stuff better (at the cost of being heavier programs with significant start up time).

I use both. I like both. I believe VS Code is very formidable and could be the sole editor a developer uses flr many types of projects (Web Development, Python projects, many Go projects too all come to mind).

[–] bugsmith@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

The problem with this idea is, what if the state is controlled by unsavoury people? I know that is kind of a hard thing to imagine, but just humour me and assume it's possible.

It gives far too much power to too few people.

[–] bugsmith@programming.dev 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yes, I've made heavy use of PyCharm, IntelliJ and Datagrip and I'm a huge fan of them all.

[–] bugsmith@programming.dev 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Sure. But I didn't say it was either. I only pointed out that it's silly to say "there's no comparison", when most functionality is easily achievable on both. And depending on language, it's not even difficult.

Edit: In fairness, I did say "it's effectively an IDE", but I stand by the point that after a few extensions - what is the difference? If I can debug, refactor, and and get complete intellisense (including finding declarations etc), I'm doing more or less everything I would in a dedicated IDE.

Edit 2: I feel I've gone to far the other way. I have used am am aware of some of the capabilities that a fill fledged IDE has over something like VSCode. Especially for languages like those of the C-family. But I do take issue with implying they're not comparable. For many usecases and languages, they're totally comparable.

[–] bugsmith@programming.dev 4 points 2 years ago (6 children)

That's a bit of a silly statement. Once you've installed a few extensions for your language (a language server and linting at minimum), it is effectively an IDE with a reasonably powerful debugger included. Just because it's modular and not "batteries included" doesn't make it incomparable.

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