bss03

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[–] bss03 2 points 1 month ago

I was hoping to get some additions, thank you.

[–] bss03 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think that if that ever comes, it will be because "retirement" is/becomes a time when you still have excess production but you aren't maximizing production, or that instead of 32hr/wk for 10 years, we do 8hr/wk for 40 years, with 3-5 years in there for pivot+retrain or relax+restore+refocus.

I doubt I'll live to see it, tho.

[–] bss03 4 points 1 month ago

I agree regulating speech for this purpose is not a good fit, and more likely to be abused than useful.

I think society has to really double-down on critical thinking skills, particularly around verifying sources and identifying bias, including your own cognitive biases that are inescapable. Of course, authoritarians of all stripes, but particularly religious ones, don't like this so frequently interfere with public education efforts along those lines. CFAR has problems, but their "core mission" of "explore and practice better ways of thinking" is a good one and some of their resources can be valuable.

But, we also have to figure out how to provide spaces where people can let down their guard and escape the hostile environment AND get people (like myself) to use them (instead of doomscrolling, e.g.).

[–] bss03 2 points 1 month ago

... and appendixes and appendices.

[–] bss03 1 points 1 month ago

Yeah, the hostile information environment is ... tough. But, until we figure out how to navigate it, we won't have a truly global society, and I'm not sure that separate, non-hostile communities/associations/syndicates are a stable configuration.

Critical thinking skills are part of that, but exercising them as a defense in that environment is not something you can sustain indefinitely. Everyone needs time to rest and everyone is going to make mistakes.

[–] bss03 2 points 1 month ago

because it’s kinda symmetric

That's not what I've been told, but I'm not an expert.

I imagine part of that is due to an interaction with economics, particularly inflation. A 3% inflation is considered healthy, but a 3% deflation is almost certainly a monetary system in a death spiral.

[–] bss03 1 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Yes, as people are disabled through aging, they eventually stop "producing" more than is necessary to sustain them. People with excess "production" have to transfer it to them. This can take various forms, but both a "self-sustaining pension" and a U.S. style "social security fund" use money as this method of transfer; the former is a bit more abstracted since interest / market gains (rather than direct contribution) are used, but it's still the same flow. Making disabled care a cultural norm is even more direct, but also has a lot of coordination problems, and the people with excess production are often geographically (and socially) separated from the people with production deficits.

[–] bss03 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I think we should at least warn them; perhaps they don't have enough information to connect that outcome to their currently preferred policies. I.e. they don't actually "want to enact policies and cultures that would lead to their disappearance". Preventing persons from unintentionally harming themselves seems like a good thing.

Preventing persons from harming others (unintentionally or not) seems like a moral imperative. And, I think there are probably SK citizens that don't consent to the current policies that will be harmed.

But, at the end of the day, I don't have any action items. I see it mostly as a cautionary tale to drive my own policy preferences.

[–] bss03 8 points 1 month ago (5 children)

My list so far:

  • United States of America
  • Hungary
  • Russia
  • Japan

But... I expect there are a lot more.

[–] bss03 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's not how to survive with less-than-replacement birth rates, that's how to get higher-than-replacement birth rates (possibly without immigration). (I will admit that I was unclear that I meant "I don't see how" to long-term sustain population decreases.)

But, absolutely, to get more birth, you need to have lots of support for child-raising, so that it is seen as more joyful than it is stressful. I know SK is having problems getting the political (or even democratic) will to implement those things, and even if they did all of that today AND birth rate immediately soared, they'd still have a "demographic squeeze" that their current economy can't sustain.

I don't think Japan is facing the demographic squeeze, yet. I don't think you'd find much support for these "COMMUNIST" ideas among Kamiya's followers, tho.

[–] bss03 7 points 1 month ago

That why the Federalist Society attacked the justice system first! They saw that "just" getting a corrupt puppet (Reagan) wasn't enough to assert the power they wanted.

[–] bss03 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I think that if you make enough things democratically controlled, and have a proper secret ballot, that you can prevent wealth accumulation from being able to subvert democratic will.

It doesn't solve "tyranny of the majority", tho.

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