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Garbage in, garbage out. The "math" doesn't change that simple truism.

Also, the fact that chatGPT it's prone to making shit up isn't conjecture, it's fact. It can be a super useful tool for some use cases, but getting medical advice? Yeah fuck no lol

Small Gods is my goto reccomendation for starting points, it's completely self contained and one of Pratchett's best works

I don't go to any fast food chain often enough to download an app for it lol

Sure, if you ignore all the psychological and habit forming benefits that it provides. Saying that the only benefit to exercise is increasing CO workers would be true if you were just a robot who was fully capable of making rational choices 100% of the time. And if that's you, then you wouldn't need weight loss in the first place..

Exercise does a lot to help individuals stick with the Calorie restriction part of CICO, for the reasons I mention.

And also like I said, pure** weight loss is rarely anyone's actual goal**, id wager that close to 100% of people trying to "lose weight" are actually working towards either looking better, or being more healthy (or both, of course) - and for both of those goals, exercise is very important.

Targeted exercise doesn’t do anything for targeted weight loss. Your body loses fat however the fuck it wants to and the only way to lose belly fat is to lose fat everywhere else your body chooses to first. And that happens with or without exercise.

Yes, I know? When did I say otherwise?

Yeah idk why but I can never get exercise right off the top of my head, no idea why spellcheck seems to never catch it

I really don't think you could've back in the dollar menu days. A double cheese burger for less than $1? Unless you're buying you're ingredients in a pretty bulk size (which if you're regularly eating off the dollar menu, you probably can't afford to do), I doubt you could have gotten much better than that

And now it's not even cheap. It used to be that it sucked, but you could walk out stuffed for like $4, but the last time my wife and I went on a road trip it was literally like $30 for the two of us.

At those prices you're better off going to an actual restaurant unless you have absolutely no time for it

Fair point, makes cash customers trickier, but for better or worse, more and more people don't use cash anyways, so that might be a non issue

I'm going to disagree slightly with the majority of the comments here and say that excersize is still very important for weight loss.

First off though, because I'm sure some folks are already getting their pitchforks out, all weight loss is CICO, and you can absolutely hit any goal weight just by diet alone without ever getting off your couch. Additionally, what works for weight loss (in terms of actual techniques to achieve a net Calorie deficiency) varies from person to person, what I say below may totally not be the case for you, and that's fine.

All that being said, I think you're going to have a much easier time of it if you also workout in some way.

For one thing, more excersize means more calories out. You can easily (well, your definition of "easy" may vary lol) burn 500 calories during a single workout. If you're making smart eating choices, 500 calories is a lot of food. You would be hard pressed to be physically able to eat 500 calories of an air fried vegetable medely for example. This means that you can lose weight while not feeling starved. And even for less healthy choices, it's still a fair bit of food. You can eat 2 slices of pizza for that one workout and still break even from a calories standpoint.

Basically, excersize = free food - most people fail their diets because they're tired of being hungry all the time and tired of not being able to enjoy the foods they love. Adding excersize into the mix means you can eat more, and still enjoy sensible servings of your favorite "treat" foods while still losing weight.

Secondly, for me at least, working out gives you motivation in the kitchen later. It's a lot harder to cave and order that pizza instead of making the salmon and veggies you had planned for dinner when you know that doing so means "wasting" all that sweat and effort you put in at the gym earlier that day. Remember how earlier I pointed out that a single excersize = 2 slices of pizza? Well that also works the other way around - when you go to reach for a slice of pizza, you wind up asking yourself "is this one slice of pizza worth half a workout?" for me at least, the answer is often no, and even when it's yes (every diet needs room for your favorite junk foods in moderation), I keep asking myself that for each slice, and so will stop eating before I go overboard.

Finally, you probably don't just want to lose weight. OK, maybe you do, idk you - but if you succeed and hit your goal weight, you'll probably just transition to being insecure about fat deposits to being insecure about being scrawny. If your goal is to look good, at least some muscle tone is necessary, and if your goal is to be generally healthier, than it's even more important to add exercise to the mix.

Just my $0.02, Im no dietician or personal trainer, but I've been working hard at getting in shape and have lost 13 pounds in the last month through a combination of diet and exercise, and I truly don't think I could have done it without having added excersize to my routine

Definitely should only listen to the few anecdotes shared by random people kind of paying attention on a relatively anonymous social board

Except chatGPT was trained in no small part on data from reddit, Twitter, etc - so asking chatGPT basically is listening to random anecdotes shared by random people, only with the added complication that if someone spews BS on here, they're at least somewhat likely to be called out, whereas ChatGPT will just present it as the definitive truth

Also how do you handle things that pop up mid meal? Like a second beer/cocktail with your meal.

I think a deposit when you sit down makes the most sense. If paying by card, then just keep their card on file for the duration of the meal, if cash, then do a small deposit per person - less than the cost of the meal, but enough to make dining and dashing really not worth the risk/effort.

Not exactly perfect, but itd work

I honestly can't tell if this is more healthy than unhealthy lol