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I wasn't talking about you, I was talking in general, and the specific context was the person earlier in this discussion, who you explicitly stated is not a bigot.

If you "have an opinion about transgender people" that involves taking away their rights, or putting them in harms way and that prioritises the needs of everyone else first, and the needs of trans people last, if at all, then you have a bigoted opinion.

Open world games don't hold me, because ironically, they tend to feel too small. When you can walk from one side of the setting to the other in real time, it all feels small.

Honestly, it depends on the doctor. My original doctor had been doing trans healthcare for decades, and she had it down to an art. She'd put them implant in my abdomen, I'd get a single stitch, and had to avoid strenuous activity for a couple of days, but it was otherwise it was minimal impact.

I asked her to put one in my butt cheek once. She'd never done that before, and it showed. It was a more troubled implant, and took me longer to recover from, and made sitting uncomfortable for a few days.

And my current GP who doesn't have quite the same experience as the first, tends to leave a bruise when he does the implant, but it otherwise heals the same as always. A single stitch, and a couple of days without strenuous activity.

About $160 AUD for the pellet. Plus whatever a long appointment with the GP costs.

Oh. Well, in that case, FYI, I get 100mg pellets and they last about 12 months

I'm on implants too. Love them precisely for that reason. Not having to think about HRT is nice

The alternative front ends display them.

The upgrade likely broke our custom image proxy. We'll get it fixed when we can!

This is all an interesting hypothetical to you. To me, it's my lived life. Trust me, I've done what you're talking about. I was active in /r/changemyview, and I've spent a lot of time having this discussion with people on social media.

And in that time, not a single person has changed their perspective or view on the topic. Because they already had a view, and despite the ostensible goal of the sub, they're largely not open to changing their view. They may want to, but they're not actually willing to change it. Because ultimately, people arrived at their "concerns" through emotional manipulation, and that can't be undone by "rational discussion". Like sure, maybe you're the single exception, and in my 5+ years of having this discussion, you might be the first to genuinely change your opinion. But even then, after 5 years of normalising the idea that my rights are up for discussion, as if it's actually ok for people to want them removed because of their "concerns", I'd have a single changed mind in 5 years.

But you know what else I've done in those 5 years? I've told every other person that I've had this discussion with that it's actually ok to debate my rights, that whether or not I deserve rights is based on how well I can debate and argue. And I've given the bigots driving this whole discussion exactly what they wanted, which is to make myself a target.

Fuck that.

So what does it say about me? It says I've got more lived experience in navigating this topic than you ever will, and I'm no longer willing to see "civil discussion" on the erasure of peoples rights, in the pointless hope that it will actually help us. Because it doesn't.

That argument would be torn apart pretty easily

Sure. The argument can be torn apart. But that doesn't change anything. What changes when you make those sorts of arguments is simply that it gives a green light to pushing back against marginalised people.

If argument being torn apart was enough, the argument against trans folk in sport wouldn't even be an argument. But it is, because there is a political interest in creating harmful narratives about trans folk, and using exclusion from sport as a wedge to normalise exclusion in other areas. Which is exactly what is happening.

So if you're ok with that sort of question, I think you need to spend a bit more time looking at the context those questions exist in. Why is it now that people want to suddenly talk about trans people in sports. It's not because the trans folk have been doing anything different. It's because there is an explicit motivation to create a culture war, with trans folk as the targets. You shouldn't be ok with being part of that.

I'm not asking you to argue about it. I explicitly don't want people arguing about it, which I was hoping my previous comment would make clear.

There are people out there that were raised a certain way that want to change or perhaps have questions due to ignorance on the topic. By being combative, you're doing more harm than good for something you clearly care about.

If someone turns against all trans people because they encounter a single angry trans person, then they were just looking for an excuse to justify what they already felt.

And it's not my job to play nice with the people trying to erase my rights in the hope that maybe, just maybe, they'll stop what they're doing! That doesn't work. That has never worked. Every single civil right gain has been made by pushing back.

So thanks for the advice, but I'll keep pushing back

So, you'd like to argue for the validity of excluding a vulnerable group, in the middle of a world spanning hate campaign against that exact group?