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This has always bugged me. It's strange how labeling someone as "racist" actually works in the racists favour; you're partially validating their point by implying there's a greater biological gap than actually exists.

Bigot works well as a replacement if this bugs you, and it's probably more accurate, people with "racist" views are more likely to be homophobic too.

I think you may be viewing my thoughts through an uncharitable lens. I am not bothered at all when anyone celebrates any aspect of their identity.

I'm a white Australian; my ancestors committed atrocities, yet, I do not feel shame for their actions, because I wasn't involved. I can only take shame in how I have acted.

To reiterate, the definition of pride is localised to the individual. It doesn't make sense to be proud of someone else's accomplishments if you haven't helped them.

A parent may feel proud if their child has done well, they have contributed to their success. However, if my college in a different department gets a promotion, I shouldn't.

Now extend this to people you don't know, and it makes no sense at all.

Yeah, but at least then you can retort with saying "that's not a very dignified thing to say" while sipping tea with your erect pinkie finger.

Also, I would just open up the gaytes on Pride month, henceforth known as Dignity Month. Let the straights celebrate their missionary position all month long!

pUt iT oN tHe BlOcKcHaiN bRo!

God damn, I don't envy you.

Having a family which is consciously malicious must make for some very frustrating conversations.

I, on the other hand, have a right-of-centre family who are mostly just too dull to extrapolate, and spend too much time on FB.

At least in my case I can sometimes dispel misconceptions.

This opens a whole new can of worms for me.

Can a gay person who has never experienced homophobia rightfully celebrate Pride Month?

Can a black person who was adopted by white parents and has no black cultural influence be proud of being black?

In any case, I understand the sentiment, I'm not saying "I don't understand why black people want to be recognised and celebrate the victories afforded to them by their ancestors".

What I don't understand is the specific vernacular of the word "pride" in these cases. Rosa Parks was a BAMF, but why would I be proud of her? I didn't put the idea in her head, I didn't give her the courage to sit at the back of the bus.

Whether I'm black or white has no bearing on whether I should be proud of anything outside of my own influence; I'm convinced identity politics gets us nowhere.

Deliberate misrepresentation can only be employed if one understands the original intent.

If a malicious person wants to try to convince others "Black Lives Matter" means "only black lives matter", they may have a pretty clear shot (assuming they're trying to convince someone Right of Centre).

If it was rebranded to "Black Lives Matter Too", then they would have a harder time trying to be deceitful.

I'm convinced there are more people in the camp of failing to read between the lines.

In either case, language games are important; playing poorly will lead to catastrophic outcomes. The worst part is this is so easy to correct for - a little bit of imagination will illustrate predictable backlash, or lack thereof.

There are other better choices than No-More-Shame.

LGBTQ Honor / Dignity / Glory (on second thought, this one may conjure images of bathroom stalls, so maybe not this one)

Just to clarify, I'm not asking about the implication of "white pride", just the semantics of pride in general.

It reminds me of "Black Lives Matter" - of course they do, but too many people heard "only black lives matter", when what they're trying to say is "black lives matter too".

These twits responded with "All Lives Matter", which, of course, is also true, but the implication is the discreditation of the suffering of black people.

I think a lot of these issues, unfortunately, are a failure of the Left. There are so many slogans which are either poorly thought out, or intentionally inflammatory. For example, "defund the police", "all cops are bastards", "math is racist".

We can't expect the Right to read between the lines, it's up to the Left to use better language so we don't give them more ammo.

So, Elon dislikes that white people can't be proud of being white.

Why would a person of any race be proud of their race? Shouldn't people be proud of their own accomplishments, and those of the people they've helped?

I never really understood the rationale here. I support Pride Month for example, but I think the language is kind of wrong.

Shouldn't people be proud, despite traits which have historically been denigrated?

This is a serious question BTW.

I don't think it will happen. Enshittification has a predictable life cycle. Valve has had years of opportunity to sell out, but haven't.

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