Xanza

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[–] Xanza@lemm.ee 6 points 2 months ago (8 children)
  1. They will comply
  2. The rest of us won't be far behind

They stand to lose a good portion of their business if they can't service France. They'll comply.

[–] Xanza@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago

That’s a huge wall of text to still entirely miss the point.

So then it makes sense that you didn't read it where I very specifically and intentionally touch the subjects you speak about.

If you're not going to read what people reply, then don't even bother throwing your opinion around. Just makes you look like an idiot tbh.

[–] Xanza@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago

Invest in dental supply companies.

[–] Xanza@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago

As outlined above, namespaces are a powerful feature that gives us the ability to isolate Tor network access of an arbitrary application. We put each application in a network namespace that doesn't provide access to system-wide network interfaces (such as eth0), and instead provides a custom network interface onion0.

Positively dope.

[–] Xanza@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Obviously, they monetize Codeberg because they’re providing a service. That monetization feeds Forgejo development. They could also sell official support for people hosting their own instances of Forgejo. This is a very common thing that open source companies do…

This is literally what I said in my original post. Free products must monetize, as they get larger they have to continue to monetize more and more because development and infrastructure costs continue to climb...and you budged in as if this somehow doesn't apply to Forgejo and then literally listed examples of why it does. I mean, Jesus my guy.

You are claiming Forgejo will do this.

I'm claiming that it is a virtual certainty of the age of technology that we live in that popular free products (like Github) eventually balloon into sizes which are unmanageable while maintaining a completely free model (especially without restriction), which then proceed to get even more popular at which time they have to find new revenue streams or die.

It's what's happened with Microsoft, Apple, Netflix, Hulu, Amazon Prime, Amazon Prime Video, Discord, Reddit, Emby, MongoDB, just about any CMS CRM or forum software, and is currently happening to Plex, I mean the list is quite literally endless. You could list any large software company that provides a free or mostly free product and you'll find a commercial product that they use to fund future development because their products become so popular and so difficult/costly to maintain they were forced into a monetization model to continue development.

Why you think Forgejo is the only exception to this natural evolution is beyond my understanding.

I'm fully aware of the difference between Codeberg and Forgejo. And Forgejo is a product and its exceptionally costly to build and maintain. Costs which will continue to rise as it has to change over time to suit more and more user needs. People seem to heavily imply that free products cost nothing to build, which is just insane.

I've been a FOSS developer for 25 years and a tech PM for almost 20. I speak with a little bit of authority here because it's my literal wheelhouse.

[–] Xanza@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago

This is my opinion on it, too. Everyone is crying about the death of Github when they're just cutting back on unauthenticated requests to curb abuse... lol seems pretty standard practice to me.

[–] Xanza@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago

Probably the funniest linux meme I've seen in a few years. Nice.

[–] Xanza@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago

Yeah! Don't touch our members of congress! Throw everyone else in jail, but not our most passionate public servants! /s

[–] Xanza@lemm.ee 7 points 2 months ago (6 children)

That's a very accurate statement which has absolutely nothing to do with what I've said. Fact of the matter stands, is that those who generally seek to use a Github alternative do so because they dislike Microsoft or closed source platforms. Which is great, but those platforms with hosted instances see an overwhelmingly significant portion of users who visit because they choose not to selfhost. It's a lifecycle.

  1. Create cool software for free
  2. Cool software gets popular
  3. Release new features and improve free software
  4. Lots of users use your cool software
  5. Running software becomes expensive, monetize
  6. Software becomes even more popular, single stream monetization no longer possible
  7. Monetize more
  8. Get more popular
  9. Monetize more

By step 30 you're selling everyone's data and pushing resource restrictions because it's expensive to run a popular service that's generally free. That doesn't change simply because people can selfhost if they want.

[–] Xanza@lemm.ee 25 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Am I not allowed to tell people I like the beer I brew?

That's not really what he's doing though. It would be like if you pretended to be a customer and drink your own beer in front of actual customers and were like "WOW! This beer is super good! The guy who made it has a really big dick!"

It's just shitty to do because it's sheistery as fuck.

Plex employees totally have the right to review Plex in the store. But they should be expected to advertise that they work for Plex...because he didn't the review loses any credibility that it had previously.

[–] Xanza@lemm.ee 18 points 2 months ago (8 children)

Until there will be.

I think people are grossly underestimating the sheer size and significance of the issue at hand. Forgejo will very likely eventually get to the same point Github is at right now, and will have to employ some of the same safeguards.

[–] Xanza@lemm.ee 31 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

That’s low enough that it may cause problems for a lot of infrastructure.

Likely the point. If you need more, get an API key.

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