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Rhetoric was all he had at that point. He served Athens as one of its better military minds and got banished for protecting the rural areas instead of pointlessly heading to the walled Athens. Sat out the rest of the 29 year war watching 2 entire generations of young Greeks be slaughtered for nothing. Thucydides is best read as someone wrestling with the collapse of empire and of being able to actively follow tragedy but not fully square that circle as to why they feel so hollow and depressed.

How the fuck this bastard's direct spawn manage to live? This shit is why I empathize with the deportations of Germans to Central Asia, it just seems they mostly got the wrong germans

The ship was always a submarine

Pro Stalin but regarded him as right 70% of the time, wrong 30% as Mao said. Stalin and Mao had serious disagreements, but Mao kept to the Soviets because he rightly saw one of the two only successful Communist states as the correct horse to hitch his wagon to even after those disagreements.

The reason I mention Tudeh is because those are the communists op was mentioning, not current communists in Iran. It is silly to bring it up in this context, but I don't see the reason in trashing the Tudeh of the 80s in order to tell someone off for being a chauvinist, or juxtapose sympathy with Tudeh with support for the US. They are wrong, and the suppression of the communists following the Revolution was bad. I think ops comment was silly and baiting, but I just generally don't like being flippant about dead communists or putting the onus on them being out of touch with the masses being why they got tortured and killed by reactionaries just because Iran is a positive force in the global south.

Yeah we shouldn't be bothering with this matter right now, but that's why I settle for call it bait or sticking to the context of today, not dismissing or trivializing the killing of committed communists within living memory. Also again they are in the wrong, but I wouldn't call this public. A naive comment like that is a symptom of imperialist propaganda for sure, but I just think the critique should be kept to why we shouldn't be celebrating, not anything that could be construed as defending or obfuscating the killing of communists. They are wrong to bring up the Communists killed after the revolution when Raisi is not even cold yet, but I personally would recommend not litigating the worth of said communists in response.

This is all meant for the sake of discussing how we approach naivety from fellow leftists, not meant as an insult or serious criticism in any way. I share your distain for the sentiment in question, I just want to make clear in good faith what I think was overly harsh.

Also what country's communist party are you talking about if you don't mind me asking? That sounds wild

I completely agree, though I don't know if I would say the Iranian Communists from the revolution couldn't organize a book club. They fought like hell in overthrowing the Shah. It is crazy to dismiss progressive national movements for being anti-communist, but I am not sure I would be as harsh towards the Tudeh party and their martyrs. Other leftists didn't give support, but Tudeh did and their suppression in the early 80s is not their fault. The British even assisted the government in suppressing and torturing the arrested party members.

It is not as clear cut as op wants to think, but it is also not as clear cut the other way. Lot like Nasser in that regard. And to be clear op is wrong and we shouldn't be celebrating Raisi dying. This benefits no one but the enemies of the Palestine and the global south

Lovely that they are pulling out the usual shit right away. Get ready for a few days of "he was no angel.......btw hope Ben Gvir recovers from his car crash that sweet angel"

Also I love that we are a place on the internet that genuinely will say "no disrespect" when talking about an Iranian official. Nations will probably give a thoughts and prayers, but I can only imagine what reddit or even MSNBC are like right now

Hard landing is helicopter terminology it seems.

A hard landing in aviation refers to a landing manoeuvre in which an aircraft makes contact with the runway surface with greater vertical speed and force than is typical or desirable for a smooth and controlled touchdown. This occurrence can result from a combination of factors, including pilot error, adverse weather conditions, mechanical issues, or a combination thereof. Unlike a normal landing, where the aircraft settles gently onto the runway with minimal impact, a hard landing may be characterized by a sudden jolt, excessive bounce, or audible impact upon touchdown. https://www.globeair.com/g/hard-landing#:~:text=Unlike%20a%20normal%20landing%2C%20where,or%20audible%20impact%20upon%20touchdown.

So likely more of a descriptor than anything. Maybe to immediately make clear it wasn't blown up midair or anything but was forced to land and did so in a way that proved fatal

Yeah but if there is a hint of conspiracy then this becomes a huge escalation. No way some Iranian officials won't be assuming it was a hit, bot after the provocations. It is less a matter of Iran changing course tho, but if Israel thinks Iran is weaker more disjointed.

I am still waking up but did Raisi really fucking die? God looks like another year this week

Yeah people tend to flatten local political dimensions. Just because from our pov critical-support means support both, doesn't mean there are not meaningful distinction for the parties involved. That is not to say the west doesn't play its role in those tensions, but we shouldn't simplify it like that.