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In theory, it isn't hard to make it work, give everybody born on the same day a specific UUID and use that to authenticate with a database if it is true or false. Store the ID somewhere where the person has access to (ID/Passport/Digital passport etc) and it should be enough. Get IT persons and accountants to regularly audit it for security and if they keep logs/don't have UUID's per person etc.

But that's not how it seems to work for the UK at this time

But what if I work for Proton and I am in the UK?

Edit: it's hypothetical

What would be defined as a VPN and even then there are other options to get access to content as if you where in a different country or ways to bypass the age restriction. A lot of companies and governments also use VPN's to get people to work on their servers, so how would the UK function.

It always baffles me that they try shit like that.

Edit: heck proper sex education is a way better solution to reduce unhealthy sex habits

Well pretty sure local laws here say that certain data should stay within the countries borders (like data from accounting firms) so I hope they also encrypted everything to prevent this carrot from accessing it.

Maybe Proton could have done more, but maybe not on the other hand the ISP is also wrong for supplying the name that goes with the IP. (yes I know that's deflection, but still).

I personally feel like we need to find a middle ground between personal privacy and being able to stop criminals/terrorists/fraud etc.

Well, banks here in NL have been using VISA and Mastercard cards, but that is more so people can use them in America/Canada and some other countries which are still behind on chipped cards.

But over the years I have seen 40-50 different payment platforms and most of them do not use Visa or Mastercard.

I prefer the free version at least, it responds quicker and in my experience the quality of the responses is still decent.

And wiretransfer is expensive af to and from the sepa banking system so you can barely pass it through Europe.

JCB is Japanese so idk why we get it here in NL. It’s also not a credit card company they just issue them

I have seen like 40-50 different payment platforms over the years and different methods of paying which all don’t require a creditcard (I haven’t had one for years due to having one causing issues with getting mortgages here in the Benelux) So I would assume that countries like Canada and the US would have more options as well in the end they are rich and developped nations.

Yes they did because most countries have some form of agreement that they share data when legally requested. It is pretty hard to bypass that, but it is duable (Mullaval VPN f.e.)

They didn’t just surrender the data, they started collecting it at first

The first link Ecosia showed https://archive.is/2022.04.11-095001/https://www.wired.com/story/protonmail-amends-policy-after-giving-up-activists-data/

And let me remind you that there is a non-profit above it and they need to handle for the purpose that was created which is still Protons core businesses. They make more money just doing whats right than not because otherwise people would go back to something free or go to Tuta/Mulivad

It is about the law, though. Proton has always been clear about the possibility that they are required to hand over data if the Swiss government requires it: https://proton.me/legal/transparency

So IDK where you are getting that they are saying one thing and doing another thing and even more important where you got that they shared ENCRYPTED data. Cause if they have the ability to even do that I have to rethink my choose since that should be impossible if Proton did it correctly and are trustworthy.

Visa, MasterCard, and PayPal

PayPal doesn't even work on Amazon.com

I can talk about the Netherlands, or Belgium or the vast majority of the other first world countries with different options to pay online. Even in North American you still have gift cards.

You can also contact support and ask them for different payment options, they aren't going to accept bank transfers, but they will probably allow you to pay with JCB or some others that aren;t native to the Netherlands. (Heck, JCB is apparently something made for the Japanse market so idk why I can pay with it).

Heck, you can get your payment country changed, and then you can pay with different options. Yes, America (and Canada) have a lack of options for payment providers apparently and also for physical stores, but there is a chance that there are more options, like buying gift cards online even from different countries.

Wero will also be something everybody can use, but it's like the next thing, we (as in Europeans) have had so many payment providers over the years it isn;t even funny.

In North America there are no other options it seems, but outside that yes other options exist.

Also gift cards