Vegoon

I tried very hard to have this discussion without getting into ethics,

It is for people who want to proclaim superior morality

You go into it. Not me.

Tell me what part of which animal "Steak" is and show me there are no variants and you win.

It is not only steak, it is milk where the industry lobbied hard to prevent the use even though plant milk is older than the milk of other species.

Are you cognitively capable of looking at those latter two terms without moralising? If yes, why not the the previous two?

You are the one who brought up moral, maybe that is a you problem you should take care of without projecting.

Who do you think acts more superior, those who kill others for pleasure and destroy the ground, water and air by doing so, or those who don't need that? Lion on top of the food chain, thats what you are, right?

Well, I guess it shows that some people learn only shapes instead of reading.

Still unclear who was killed, maybe there are some more shapes around? They indicate what Animal it was, you know there is more than one?

Now imagine if you will, we could use that space where it says "pig" and replace it with "saitan" for example? Mind blown, if you put 2 or more of these cryptic runes together we can transport more information.

I don't care much for it, it is for those who want to stop supporting the destruction of the planet and the murdering of billions of sentient beings for their pleasure. It makes it easier for them if they don't have to change too much.

Yes, I think I advocated here alone two to three times for that and I will stay by your side if you do demand that.

We could make it easier for all with a “animal product” label but at the moment it is only the animal industry which is lobbying for restrictive product names.

If you don’t want to then legislate for a label like the (V)egan label and put it on all products made from animals, I would still support you.

I am all in for clear description of food and a big label if it contains animal suffering and the destruction of the eco system or if it is plant based.

I too eat in the dark.

Everything is bigger in Texas

I have never seen a plant based product labeled the same as a animal product. What I see is is [Beef steak] or [Plant based Steak made from..]

Vegan products have a clear label on them and they want you to know that it plant based because people buy it for that reason, be it to avoid animal cruelty, the destruction of the environment or their own health.

I’m telling a vegan that reading ingredients could be even harder if we don’t regulate and use the right words.

The ingredient list is already regulated. We could make it easier for all with a "animal product" label but at the moment it is only the animal industry which is lobbying for restrictive product names. I am against restrictions of names but in favor for a clear declaration of ingredients.

I’m all for veganism and vegetarianism. And for plant based products. I also like to fuckong know what I am buying without having to dissect it.

Then go vegan and learn how you have to truly dissect food and read the ingredients to find if it contains something like pig bone powder.

If you don't want to then legislate for a label like the (V)egan label and put it on all products made from animals, I would still support you. Telling a vegan how hard it is to read ingredients is weak.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steak

Steaks are cut from animals including cattle, bison, buffalo, camel, goat, horse, kangaroo,[1][2] sheep, ostrich, pigs, turkey, and deer, as well as various types of fish, especially salmon and large fish such as swordfish, shark, and marlin.

So you can distinct between all these animals flesh but you feel challanged to read "plant based meat"

If it also says steak on the packaging people can just grab it and go. Definition of mislabelling.

I have never seen just [Steak] on any package. You have proven that you know words by writingen them. I reckon you can read them too.

Would it be fine for you to start selling dog steak just labeld as steak? They take great care and pride to label it correctly https://www.elwooddogmeat.com/ They make sure you know what you get because it is a premium product. If you just buy storebrand animal meat and don't care about who it was I can't help you.

Nein, weil konservativ nur bedeutet sich selbst nicht ändern zu wollen, egal was es kostet. "Alles bleibt so wie es ist, ich bin nicht flexibel genug und hab Angst vor Änderungen."