Vegoon

joined 2 years ago
[–] Vegoon@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago

But it is cheaper to hire slaves and let them piss in bottles, so you have to accept that as long as robots are not cheaper and faster. As long as robots are not 90% as fast and cheap as humans.

[–] Vegoon@feddit.de 12 points 2 years ago

If you choose to compare "fancy plant based capitalism" to reconstructed chicken sludge yes. But then I could compare beans to kobe beef?

Most of the plant based meat-like products are aimed towards meat eaters but a normal plant based diet is cheaper in every part of the world. The poorest people eat way more plants not by choice but because they are economical forced to.

[–] Vegoon@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago

Grass feed ruminants produce more CO2 than starch feed, grass fed is less than 10% in the US and they still get soy from the rain forest feed, its not exclusive.

You compare wild animals to the 90 billions that are killed each year. To give you some scale: https://xkcd.com/1338/

[–] Vegoon@feddit.de 4 points 2 years ago (10 children)

If you care about the climate going vegan has the most impact one can do according to the IPCC. I am vegan and still have enough energy to fight for change on different topics. It is not that that its a excuse to do nothing else, it is just the bare minimum in my eyes.

[–] Vegoon@feddit.de 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children)

We know that we have a Impact on others but shouldn't the goal be to keep it a minimum?

Animal industry is the intentional killing and abusing of animals. Animal feed is the biggest part of crops grown, for those crops all kind of animals are killed on a big scale. Veganism is about reducing the impact, stopping the intentional killing and reducing the unavoidable impact as much as possible. There is no delusion of a "zero impact vegan" it is just a construct for people who want to justify not changing them self.

[–] Vegoon@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago

Vegan is easier for me compared to vegetarian which I was for a few years. Now I don't have to think about it, if it contains animal products I don't support it. I found more new recipes instead of just avoiding things I added more new things. Vegetarian diet is mostly removing stuff while a plant based diet is more about adding new stuff.

[–] Vegoon@feddit.de 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

You have no idea of the scale we are dealing with.

https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.aba7357

Vegans still care about the ban of oil and many other topics like zero waste, it is not exclusive.

Due to the current infrastructure not everyone can just stop using fossile fuel based transport, but we all can go vegan. So yes, we pick battles, those we can win now and we still fight against what we cant change as individuals.

[–] Vegoon@feddit.de 10 points 2 years ago

private air flight is responsible for orders of magnitude more co2.

Aviation worldwide creates 2% of man made GHG, food production 25% and could be reduced by 75% with a plant based diet.

[–] Vegoon@feddit.de 4 points 2 years ago

Everyone can stop support what is bad.

[–] Vegoon@feddit.de 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

All aviation creates 2% of the GHG. Food production is responsible for 25% of the GHG and could be reduced by 75% with plant based diets.

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